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For this franchise, are you for or against a time travel element?

dk

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Posted Mar-11-2017 5:13 PM

Time travel is interesting for some scifi but for a franchise this far into it, regardless of being prequels, I think it would be kind of weak to shoe horn a narrative just to make the story work. What do you think?

27 Responses to For this franchise, are you for or against a time travel element?

Ati

Mar-11-2017 5:17 PM

Against.

ninXeno426

Mar-11-2017 5:20 PM

I certainly don't like it,hate it in fact.

Nothing the God of biomechanics wouldn't let you in heaven for 

dk

Mar-11-2017 5:23 PM

Agree, yet I see hints of it on threads.

Starlogger

Mar-11-2017 5:24 PM

Hate time travel. It's a stupid, lazy, dumb concept meant for lazy writers who can't figure out a way to make their time periods work with other writers' time periods.

Ingeniero

Mar-11-2017 5:26 PM

Oh, I'm going to have to agree with the crowd here.

ninXeno426

Mar-11-2017 5:26 PM

I know it's every where and i don't get where it came from.I'm not against time travel elsewhere(Star Trek,The Terminator etc.)but in Alien I am.

Nothing the God of biomechanics wouldn't let you in heaven for 

dk

Mar-11-2017 5:27 PM

Starlogger

Don't sugar coat it. Out with it! ;)

Shasta cyclone

Mar-11-2017 5:56 PM

I'm highly against it. It would basically be like taking a crap on the franchise with no way to fix it.

I can't see ridley doing that anyway.

Neomorph

Mar-11-2017 5:59 PM

It was necessary for films like The Terminator series, but it is absolutely unnecessary for the Alien films imo.

Adding "the human origin" into the franchise was too much already imo. 

Nycro

Mar-11-2017 6:19 PM

I don't mind a good flick where time travel is central to the plot (as mentioned above, Terminator), but to use it outside of that I have to agree is in poor taste, lazy and insults the audience.

Drake

Mar-11-2017 6:47 PM

Time travel is a cheap plot tool.  Back To The Future? Good times, fun.  But ALIEN?  Really it is not needed at all.

Batchpool

Mar-11-2017 6:58 PM

There are a small number of films which I love about time travel. But I really, really hate the idea of any notion of introducing time travel into the Alien universe. Take it as a an absolutely humungous NO from me.

BigDave

Mar-11-2017 7:24 PM

Nope in General because it opens a can or Worm (Holes) and Problems...

But YES.... only if its done well as a One off Event, so its a Tear in the Fabric of Space created by a Event that would be hard to replicate.

For Example a Star Going Super Nova... or some other Massive Massive Scale Explosion that causes a rift in space.

It can not be something that could be replicated and definitely something that is Engineer Tech....

So if it was say something like we did a Sci Fi movie where a Mission goes to Mars or where ever.... and on Earth  The Large Hadron Collider experiment has a massive failure and causes the Earth to be swallowed up in a Black Hole or some other Event that alters the Universe the Earth is in.

so it maybe only effects Earth and its Atmosphere and this Earth Mission from Mars returned to Earth with no detection of mission control and they then enter the Atmosphere and find they have arrived on Earth....

Only say Millions of years ago at the Age of the Dinosaurs or latter when there are Cave Men... etc

And there is no way the Humans on that Mars Mission Shuttle can ever get back to the future....

if its like this... Then yes it could work

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Myrddin365

Mar-11-2017 7:29 PM

I cant support time travel in this franchise. It is completely incongruous with any content ever created in this universe.

Safe? Of course he isn't safe, but he's good!

dk

Mar-11-2017 7:51 PM

Regardless of how they tried to explain it away, I think I would have to disown anything RS did with the franchise post Alien if it does the time travel bit.

BigDave

Mar-11-2017 8:17 PM

I would not be surprised if a Curve-ball was thrown...

The alternatives are..

1) The Space Jockey and Derelict are the result of David's experiments and have been on LV-426 for only up-to 28 years (assumes Paradise is LV-426) or certainly up to 18 years if its not LV-426 but David's Experiments Evolve and end up there.

2) David is merely Re-creating the experiments and the Derelict and Eggs are a Ancient Event.. which is what Ridley Scott had claimed for a long time.

But this could Change...

And the only way to Combine 1+2 would be Time Travel, but then i would be against that.. HOWEVER if they do go this route i hope its done in a similar way that i explained in the other post

 

R.I.P Sox  01/01/2006 - 11/10/2017

auximenes

Mar-11-2017 11:45 PM

100% against it.

Thoughts_Dreams

Mar-15-2017 9:56 AM

Against, I don’t understand why it should be needed at all. It worked in Terminator but I can’t see what it would add to the franchise, and also it is not very interesting.

 

Like others have said there is a risk that it would mess up the time-line and make it all confusing, as if Prometheus wasn’t bad enough as far as explaining things (although most of it had to do with bad characters).

I am not a huge fan of adding the origin of humanity into the alien universe because I doubt that it could be answered in a satisfying way. Humans are important for the story (as we should have learned from the failure that Prometheus was) but they should tie humans into the story in a more interesting way IMO.

 

Big Dave: I hope that the SJ and the cargo isn’t a result of David’s experiments, that would be lame. There are better ways to deal with that, I would rather have it as something unknown rather than to have it being an accident that is tied to David. David re-doing the original experiment would be something that at least would be better although I don’t find that to be a very satisfying conclusion either.

Spearfish

Mar-15-2017 10:35 AM

Technically speaking, (forward) time travel may already be in play in the franchise if we conclude that a person's rate of aging is altered in cryostasis. 

Another legit consideration is worm hole time adjustments slowing time as a matter of relativity.

That being said, backward time jumps should be left to flux capacitors.

Parkerparrot

Mar-15-2017 11:51 AM

No. No timetravel. If the writers can't piece it together, let the SJ just be old looking. Dallas just got the fosilized bit wrong. After all, he is just a spacetrucker, not a paleontologist, right?

              "Bees have hives, man" 

Cerulean Blue

Mar-15-2017 12:07 PM

Against!

Farlander

Mar-15-2017 12:58 PM

I'm totally against it, and honestly don't think RS is going that way either.

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"This mighty city shows the wonders of my hand."

Blackwinter-witch

Mar-15-2017 1:58 PM

I leave time travel up to a madman with a blue police box.

the ALIENverse has absolutely zero room for time-travel, it just doesn't 'fit' the feel of it, and would probably do some serious damage to the franchise.

Also, for myself, aside from Dr. Who, I am really sick and tired of writers thinking they're being oh-so-clever and dragging time-travel into things. It's been over-used to the point where it's now Cliche`, aside from DW, as that franchise treats Temporal Travel with respect and it gets pretty disturbingly Dark on occasion.

Regarding Sir Ridley Scott, I trust him not to engage in such a foolish travesty against this franchise or it's fanbase.

 

*Man's giant leap was just a stumble in the dark.*

Grinning & Dropping Linen

Mar-15-2017 2:01 PM

Against AGAINST...we have enough deep things to ponder over in this film universe without them introducing time travel and more than likely messing it up and creating countless plot holes because of it

BM

Mar-15-2017 2:13 PM

No, no, and no - whatever next, it was all a dream...........oh wait that's Alien 5!!! 

S.M

Mar-15-2017 2:24 PM

Time travel can make for some brilliant stories - but you need to establish it early on.  Star Trek, BTTF, Terminator - all fine.  At this point six (or eight) films into a series, depending on how it's used,  it'd end up looking like a lazy cop out.

ali81

Mar-16-2017 12:19 AM

im guessing this is to the theories on how their going to do alien5. I hate the time travel idea in alien franchise. in franchises like terminator it worked fine because it was part of the main plot and it was shown right at the very start. I don't think alien5 needs to show time travel or even a dream scenario either, Im fine with just being given a straight out alternative sequel to aliens, which I think from what iv read, is how they r going to do it. Blomkamp has said 'if u like alien3 and not his film then u can take alien3 as the sequel and vice versa'.

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