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Unguns in David's workshop

Unguns in David's workshop

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PraetorianMember3422 XPMar-07-2017 1:45 PM

I have been notified that others are betting the farm that David 8's workshop is gun-free. 

Page 1, Page 2, Page 3, Page 4, and (i can't believe it) Page 5.
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PraetorianMember3422 XPMar-08-2017 11:19 AM

A glare from a GUN.


PraetorianMember3422 XPMar-08-2017 11:20 AM

No, a glare from two GUNS shining as bright and as brilliant as the morning sun on the floor of David 8's workshop.


PraetorianMember3422 XPMar-08-2017 11:21 AM

No, not at all Hicks/Hudson. Thank you for saying that.


FacehuggerMember152 XPMar-08-2017 11:25 AM

No problem.

I'm with you on the 1st gun to the right with the flashlight attached. The second one I'm 50/50 on, too hard for my little eyes to tell.

But if you see a gun, you see one. If you see a flashlight, it's a flashlight. If you see Shaw dancing naked with glow sticks to a Ke$sha song while the Xeno twerks on the ceiling...well...maybe there has to be a line drawn at some point.


PraetorianMember3422 XPMar-08-2017 11:51 AM

Thats so funny. My next theory for the workshop had dancing as well.


OvomorphMember23 XPMar-08-2017 1:52 PM

I was the one that spoke up about the second one on the left :) me me me and unobjects are scary. 


PraetorianMember3422 XPMar-08-2017 1:59 PM

GX-T355, yes you were and you deserve praise. To be honest, I didn't see the second gun flashlight until you pointed it out.


FacehuggerMember203 XPMar-08-2017 3:06 PM

There is no chance....NONE....that there is any sarcasm in this


PraetorianMember3422 XPMar-08-2017 4:19 PM

No, SteveRogers1973, not at all.

Thank you, we will pull it together now and be serious.

I have one last bit of sarcasm I promised Hicks/Hudson and then I'll quit. Its called Grand Unified Robot Theory. I believe it will tie together many of the main theories put forth on this forum.

Then, I swear, I will get back to being serious.


PraetorianMember3422 XPMar-08-2017 9:25 PM

Thank you to Facehuggers! , Inquisitor Fifield, ninXeno426, SteveRogers1973, BigDave, Hicks/Hudson, GX-T355.

First, let me pay respect to those that contributed to this topic. The below contributions were serious and great theory and background. Please don’t think your contribution was wasted.


BigDave -  I posted a hypothesis a while ago that the Engineers had been abducting humans from Earth and bringing them there for experimentation. Maybe these skulls are left overs from a time long passed and David is studying them?



The still of the cryo pods could be from anywhere in the movie.  Remember that there is an entire colony of people on the ship.



But if you see a gun, you see one. If you see a flashlight, it's a flashlight. If you see Shaw dancing naked with glow sticks to a Ke$sha song while the Xeno twerks on the ceiling...well...maybe there has to be a line drawn at some point.



First i would add about that Laboratory and i thought the leaked Prop room was for the creature department to get some inspiration and use those Skeletons to basically work out how to design new Monsters by studding anatomy of other animals.

One Person on Set even said they had a Cat Skeleton in parts and she took it back with her and confirmed they was used in the design stage of Creatures.

But the Trailer 2 does seem to show some of these are in the movie...

So now i can answer those Small Skulls.... they are not from Monkeys or similar... they are Human Baby Skulls from a Fetus thats over 25 weeks up to a New Born and few weeks old.

Why and where would David have access to such things?

Shaw? how does he manage to get her Pregnant with Humanoids, unless there are Engineers and well they can procreate only they had no Females as they either Engineered themselves past the need, or Females was lost/taken from them in the past (Paradise has dead female Engineers) maybe this is why the Fallen Angels favored the Daughters of Man?

Because there is only a few ways David could get his hands on New Born or Pre-born Humanoid Babbie's.


These and others were great contribution to the discussion. Talk about support…thank you Hicks/Hudson, I’ll address dancing in the theory below. And finally, last but not least, the title of this posting would be different without the contribution of GX-T355

We would have debated the “Ungun in David’s workshop” had GX-T355 not provided the value added second Ungun. A very happy unbirthday to you GX-T355.

All of these above contributions are to be taken seriously. The contribution below, not so much. I wrote this theory below to set a baseline for others to feel good about their theory. Your theory and discussion are not crap and you will feel better once you read the below take on the missing backstory.


PraetorianMember3422 XPMar-08-2017 9:33 PM

Grand Unified Robot Theory

Peter Weyland was born October 1, 1990 in Mumbai, India. Having an engineer and a professor of mythology for parents gave young Peter a leg up in his enrichment activities.

Peter was awarded a patent at age 14 for a synthetic trachea he developed from stem cells. Although, easily surpassing his peers in academic development, Peter had one love that would last his life that wasn’t in medicine, mythology, robotics, or space travel.

Peter wanted to dance. And not just any dance, Peter wanted to break dance. Growing up in Mumbai, Peter had access to the best of bootleg movies. One movie Peter purchased was Breakin’ from 1984. This movie lit a fire inside of Peter. A burning fire of a need to dance.

The below image is David performing Entrance of the Gods into Valhalla with his hands hammering the keys like Elton John with titanium fingers. David is a dynamo on the piano and he began to sing lyrics to the song others hadn’t heard before.

David sang in prophetic words, 

Run. Don’t mind the alien but still run.

Run from the two guns in my workshop Inquisitor Fifield.

Guuuuhhhhhaaaaaaaauuunns, run from the two unguns….

Then Walter took over with the synthesizer.


You are unable to see Peter Weyland break dancing to this but he almost set the smooth white floor on fire with his backspin in a silk suit. There is a shadow on the wall from Peter breaking down into his spin behind David hammering on the keys of the piano. 

Over time, break dancing took a toll on Peter and he wasn’t able to do the backspin anymore. Peter Weyland got to a point where he could only do the robot (hence Grand Unified Robot Theory).

David had told the Engineer what was important to Peter Weyland not knowing that Engineers hate break dancing.

Inquisitor Fifield

FacehuggerMember249 XPMar-09-2017 12:20 AM

yup, he flipped out.

Seriously sorry for triggering what ever was your problem


(but there is no w-y storm rifle in the lab)


FacehuggerMember152 XPMar-09-2017 4:44 AM

@Ingenerio, that was beautifully and masterfully well done. I forgot Peter Weyland's street name was Bugaloo Shrimp.

BTW, most fun I've had in a thread.


PraetorianMember3422 XPMar-09-2017 6:16 AM

Inquisitor Fifield, I believe my Peter Weyland break dancing story is closer to the truth than no guns in David's workshop.

You mocked 3 different people's in one post, one really got their feelings hurt.

"Where do you think you are seeing this rifle in that picture?

There are high res version of this screencap possible you know.

i can guarantee you its neither in that picture nor in the movie even if we would like to have it..


Engineer like male on the dissection table = Shaw

Massive and tall male blurred figure stumbling up the stairs = Mutated Shaw

Some pixels = weyland storm rifle"

And now for the second verse:

Don't trip over the 2 guns in my workshop 

and don't point your crusty troll finger

if you have thin skin Inquisitor Fifield

Walter begins to beat box at this point.


PraetorianMember3422 XPMar-09-2017 6:43 AM

Thank you Hicks/Hudson. There is a lot to the Peter Weyland backstory we haven't seen yet.


FacehuggerMember203 XPMar-09-2017 7:51 AM

Honestly - this may qualify as a HUGE spoiler...I mean, clearly this "reveal" is the ultimate direction of the entire canon.  I believe that Blomkamp wanted to make "Alien 5" - not it's true working title of course - the big tie in between Aliens and Breakin 2: Electric Boogaloo.  Obviously these too genre have long been connected and Blomkamp finally wanted to tie it all together.  Ridley caught wind of it, as everyone knows he loathes break dancing, and had the studio execs squash it.


The horse has left the barn now though....way to go @Ingeniero...they better delete this thread or the franchise is toast.


FacehuggerMember152 XPMar-09-2017 8:41 AM

@SteveRogers - They can't delete this, it's the groundwork for the future of the Alien franchise.

Picture this: A dark, desecrated temple. The Xeno emerges from one end of the room, a Protomorph descends from the ceiling, and Ultramorph bursts through the floor, a shocking twist...Peter Weyland slowly meanders in from the other side of the room. They all stare at each other...sweat, saliva, black goo, slime...all dripping from them in anticipation for....

DJ DAVID 8 TO START SPINNING LV-223'S HOTEST BEATS! The Xeno pops, locks, and drops it...the Ultra breaks in the center, the Proto does the robot, and Peter does the worm! (The dance, not the Hammerpede, sorry this isn't NC-17 guys).


on second thought......maybe you're right Steve. We should all abandon this now.


PraetorianMember3422 XPMar-09-2017 11:11 AM

It is almost like we are operating with a hive mind now Hicks/Hudson and SteveRogers1973.

The xeno-rave run by David 8 and the tie in to Electric Boogaloo (Yutani Corporation back story)...have you seen the script for Grand Unified Robot Theory 2?

All joking aside, Inquisitor Fifield now has a clear case of flipped out do***ented on me.

Still, please feel free to use this topic to post updates and analysis to the Grand Unified Robot Theory and any ungun developments.

I promised SteveRogers1973 I would hold off after posting that. 

One last thing, "me me me and unobjects are scary", GX-T355 thank you for that nugget.

Back to business.


OvomorphMember43 XPMar-09-2017 11:22 AM

On second thought, maybe the dance party was the answer that Shaw sought...the key to Weyland's (boogie down) immortality...and the fire that Prometheus stole...was the newest, hottest moves.


PraetorianMember3422 XPMar-09-2017 11:32 AM

SpiteHouse, see, now we are getting down to the DNA of the story.


FacehuggerMember203 XPMar-09-2017 12:39 PM

@Spitehouse - I think that might just be it: The fire that Prometheus took from the gods was just a metaphor to the Fly/Backspin/pop/lock/turtle/whack combo moves that Weyland has been chasing...if he can find the right combination he could achieve immortality! He could then be the "Flyest of the Fly" as depicted in the original cave hieroglyphs.

This is amazing.  We are literally discovering the true Alien canon on this thread....the whole Xeno thing is just a ruse to thow everyone of Weyland's true quest...crazy. 


FacehuggerMember203 XPMar-09-2017 12:41 PM


PraetorianMember3422 XPMar-09-2017 1:42 PM

Wow SteveRogers1973, I thought I had a clamp down on the Grand Unified Robot Theory 2 concept art. This image leak above from my team is unacceptable.


FacehuggerMember203 XPMar-09-2017 1:55 PM

@Ingeniero - My bad buddy...I have entire team of internet spooks doing my dirty work and I didn't realize this was yours.  But good news! I identified the perpetrator and he has been shot...unfortunately he was the only one who knew how to delete anything so my hands are a bit tied at the moment


PraetorianMember3422 XPMar-09-2017 2:04 PM

I'll stop my witch hunt then. Let it be the first of the viral advertising for Grand Unified Robot Theory 2.


DeaconMember10416 XPMar-09-2017 2:23 PM



If i can put something back on Topic....

Then indeed Engineers coming to take Humans back to LV-223 or Paradise could be a possibility.... or even taking them from Paradise/LV-223 to Earth.  Maybe some element of Alien Abductions or even Ancient Sacrifices could fit into the whole Story.

At very least its plausible the Engineers came back and took some forms of Life back to LV-223 to Evolve them and then bring back these more evolved Humanoids back over and over until modern Mankind is achieved.

As far as the Baby Heads.. indeed its the first thing i noticed way back when these Props was leaked and i have mentioned this a few times.. and they are in the Movie.

So this means (unless they are going to pass them off as primates)  that either

*David has came across Skeletons of long dead Baby/Fetus Humanoids, or Petrified/Burnt remains of such Humanoids.

*David somehow gains access to some live at one point Baby/Fetus Humanoids  in those 10 years he has been on Paradise.

The last Option is interesting because we have to wonder, where the hell does he obtain these?

The Source did claim back in February 2015 that there was like Cryo-Pods that was not too dissimilar to the Matrix Pods where the Machines Grow and Keep Humans in the Matrix...  and they said there was like Babies being grown in these Pods.

Which is why a while back i made a Topic about could it have been Females that always lead to the downfall of the Engineers or other beings, because Culture and Mythos has always portrayed MAN and indeed the GODs (Angels in Biblical account) being Fond of Females and Gold.. 

So i wondered was the Disaster Scene in AC a Punishment where Females was taken out, with Males... and this left the Engineers or those above them to find alternative means to Reproduce and could Cloning be that... and could these had led to the LV-223 Engineers?

R.I.P Sox  01/01/2006 - 11/10/2017


PraetorianMember3422 XPMar-09-2017 2:47 PM

Thank you BigDave. I noticed more than one Prometheus mission lost. I think it is obvious that David had access to at least one Engineer body to harvest from/test on when on Paradise.

Could any of the lost Prometheus class missions have provided humans for the Engineers?

Was anything discovered the Project Prometheus Discover New Worlds? (

This was in the notes section of one of the colonies.

"The colony was named after Captain Susan Morrison, whose deep space exploration vessel was lost in the Gliese system"

The colony furthest out in the list is POL-6362: JACOB-TELLIS and is 3249 light years out.

Weyland Industries could have put many ships in the Acheron LV-426 system. Prometheus Class ships set sail in 2073.

Did a crew, such as the lost crew of Captain Susan Morrison (a real person at NASA) get lost in the system that houses the planet Paradise?

Did David 8 cultivate eggs from the capture of another crew(s)?


DeaconMember10416 XPMar-09-2017 3:17 PM

Who knows...

We have to remember the Galaxy even as far as within a 2000LY distance is vast... it would be like the Atlantic Ocean say  on a larger scale.. if saw we had many ships travel across that sea and there could be things and places (well GPS Co-ordinates) that are simply never explored..

My point is kind of like how difficult it is to find a Crash Plane Wreckage at sea, most times not every piece of wreckage is recovered.

so they could have traveled further than LV-223/426 before Prometheus but never had been near that system.

I would also not 100% rely on this part of the Prometheus Viral Website as it has MASSIVE Plot Holes

The Biggest One of All

"The colony furthest out in the list is POL-6362: JACOB-TELLIS and is 3249 light years out."

Which by the year it was reached by a Man-made mission would Beg the Question why did Weyland use the Prometheus when this shows there was FAR-MORE Faster Ships out there?

R.I.P Sox  01/01/2006 - 11/10/2017


DeaconMember10416 XPMar-09-2017 3:26 PM

I wont rule out the possibility of a previous mission to Paradise though... as its like i had mentioned on a Topic the other day..

Where did these Lamps come from? There are 3 such Lights Sources in this shot..

1) From the Prometheus Lifeboat or Wreckage? Doubt it

2) Engineer Juggernaught? I would think the Tech is different

3) Ancient Engineer Technology, that means they evolved similar Technological wise as we did when we invented Electricity and the light Bulb

Nope they look very Human/Man-made from Earth Tech.

Could they have came from here?

 Or similar.... as these are not round.

Or did Ancient Engineers share a lot of similar Tech like Lamps with Light Bulbs or similar.... and then where did David get his writing material and Paper.

Did he re-invent the lot from scratch?

R.I.P Sox  01/01/2006 - 11/10/2017


PraetorianMember3422 XPMar-09-2017 4:03 PM

Hey BigDave, that's actually a really great catch. David 8 has unique skills but I also don't believe he created everything from scratch such as the lights in his workshop on Paradise.

The paper looks a bit like opened scrolls...which would be in place in a temple but I don't remember any lighting in Prometheus in the Engineer structure except for the hologram playback that kicked on whatever was all over the walls blending into the background. A different tech entirely from the human visitors.
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