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Is this David's workshop?

Is this David's workshop?

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Ingeniero

Mar-02-2017 10:01 AM

Did David use Dr. Shaw's reproductive system to produce the face hugger eggs or did David invite another group to Paradise?

Where did these eggs come from?

 

26 Responses to Is this David's workshop?

LV426Qeen

Mar-02-2017 10:31 AM

I believe that David used Shaw to create the new eggs.  She apparently had the reproductive system compatible with the black goo to do so as seen in Prometheus.  She created the first ever face hugger.  I do believe this is David's workshop and that he somehow "impregnated" Walter to create the Xenomorph.  See picture.  Whose face is this writhing with a chest burster?

 

Membrane

Mar-02-2017 10:59 AM

Not sure whose face that is.  One would assume if it is Walter, the blood would not be red/dark in color as it appears to be in the shot.  Not only is Elizabeth Shaw (Rapace) going to play some part we know not about yet, but I think Jacob Branson (Franco) will too.

Dr. Curt Connors

Mar-02-2017 11:00 AM

The guy in that picture looks like his hair is too long to be Fassbender to me. I actually have no idea who he is, Crudup's stunt double? He's the only one for sure we know right now who gets facehugged. Somebody else entirely? And I actually don't think David experiments on Shaw at all.

Goddamn Tropics in here

Mar-02-2017 11:01 AM

Judging by the amount of material David has to work with on the Planet  and the diagrams in his Lab, I think he has created the eggs (from years of work) from this material and perhaps what he has taken from Shaw?

I still feel Shaw will be used for something more that parts

The above picture looks more like Walter riething in pain than anyone else from the crew, very interesting...

However this may be just a red herring as I think the biomechanical Xeno will not be produced until the next film/s and i believe the embryos on the Covernant will play a part in the future too

Goddamn Tropics in here

Mar-02-2017 11:11 AM

However based on hair length it's not Walter 

Skrapha

Mar-02-2017 11:27 AM

From what Ive heard there are no embryos on the covenant, that was only reported ion the 4chan leak, but we know know that to be false, and they only have people in cryo on board

Membrane

Mar-02-2017 11:33 AM

Yes, and I'm guessing some of the people in cryo are used in some way.  Maybe they become "lab rats" for David's experiments?  Heck, maybe David could tap into W-Y's database and see what the Covenant's mission was and what would be on board, sent the signal to get them to stop just so he could have more "lab rats", whether he needs them to help Shaw or not.

peterweyland

Mar-02-2017 1:00 PM

It's not Walter at all, it's either an odd angle of shooting Crudup or some other Fodder character. Walter has been seen in the trailer in the screen monitor after the Alien get's on board the actual Covenant and Tennessee/Daniels are trying to trap it and shoot it into space.

BigDave

Mar-02-2017 2:40 PM

Interesting debate...

first thats not Walter... Hair is too long, as far as Blood it depends if Walter is a Synthetic Construct (Part Organic) or 100% Synthetic... if he is the latter his blood would be white if he is a construct then who knows.

It could be Crudup.... however... this would require TWO major mistakes by Ridley Scott... which he has previous for however.. but not this close a shot.. Unless its his old Age and time to put his Directing Boots to bed....

This person in the Chest Buster Shot..

1) Looks different, hair is lighter and face is different, maybe its a Stunt Double but then for this close a shot.. what a mistake... this person does not match the other 15 Last Super Crew either....

2) The T-shirt is a far lighter shade of Grey than Crudups...

So the only explanation is its SOMEONE else... or Ridley took a close shot with a Stunt Double and hoped we would not notice and then also forgot to match the color of the clothing.

R.I.P Sox  01/01/2006 - 11/10/2017

BigDave

Mar-02-2017 2:44 PM

@peterweyland

Indeed...

But then who knows...

The shot on the Covenant could be David... doing a Switch-a-roo...

Yesterday some interviews etc came out where Waterton refereed to Walter as a friendly Androids and David.. she just hinted... oh well...

I think its one BIG Red Herring.....  and i think Walter will be thought of as a Good Guy but would be revealed as the Bad Guy and the shot on he Covenant is when he is looking like he is trying to trap the Alien.. but he is actually trying to Trap Daniels and McBride

 

R.I.P Sox  01/01/2006 - 11/10/2017

BigDave

Mar-02-2017 2:45 PM

As far as Davids workshop.....

Yes ...maybe...

The Workshops shot is interesting as it had Materials that are too low Tech for LV-223 Engineers and Too High Tech for Ancient Engineers... they look more like Earth based Tech brought along..

But how?  Salvaged from the Life-Boat of Vickers?

R.I.P Sox  01/01/2006 - 11/10/2017

MJD

Mar-03-2017 3:37 AM

its Crudup who dies there not Walter or others and there is only one Xenomorph in this movie not multiple but a few Neomorphs too :-) and yes if you look at the trailer and then room where ridley is sitting, its the workshop :-) as to what happened to Shaw and if she was used for is unclear, just like the egg morph theory is kinda not able to be answered. You see many eggs in the chamber with Crudup, now quite sure about that whole subject yet :-) and i am not sure if David has done something to Shaw or they have really become weird friends :-) i can picture both

Ingeniero

Mar-03-2017 6:12 AM

Who's skulls are these in the lower left?

Here is another angle of what some of us think is David's workshop.

Once you get past the face hugger flash, notice the skulls in a bowl and the 3 sizes of eggs in the background...and a small creature skeleton. 

Ingeniero

Mar-03-2017 6:14 AM

Here is a brighter image.

Tiwaz

Mar-03-2017 9:13 AM

Is it David's lab? Or was/is it someone else's lab originally? 

Remembering the events in Prometheus we're talking about bio weapons/weaponized organisms. And weapon development involves testing. Is Paradise merely a testing site?

Where is the lab located? Certainly not aboard the juggernaut, the interior doesn't fit. Leaves the only other known structure, the dome like "temple". From set reports we know it wasn't build for humans (huge stairs etc.). So what was the temples purpose? Test facility for weapons? Since there are already thousands of corpses in the emmediate vicinity. 

Therefor what is he doing there? Studying what has been done there before or developing something himself? Why the drawings and diagrams? David is an Android, you'd think he doesn't need this kind of "memory helper".

Eine Theorie die nicht auf Etwas solidem basiert ist für gewöhnlich nur Geschwätz.

Hicks/Hudson

Mar-03-2017 9:29 AM

The guy writhing around is either Matt Scaletti or....Guy Pearce.

Hear me out.

The actor looks a little like him. Is he playing Peter Weyland? A clone? A relative that resembles Peter Weyland? Remember, the alien franchise likes to do that stuff (Bishop in Aliens, the human(ish?) Lance Henricksen in Alien 3 that was identical to Bishop). Just another thought, probably not true at all haha, just thought I'd toss it out there.

Ingeniero

Mar-05-2017 2:15 PM

Tiwaz that could most certainly be someone else's lab that had inventory of black goo tech.

David 8 could have taken urns off the juggernaut he traveled in and built his workshop or updated an existing workshop.

Ingeniero

Mar-05-2017 2:17 PM

Hicks/Hudson, I can't make out who that is in the photo. The image right before it in the trailer looks like Walter running in a panic with a hat on but why would Walter panic?

Svanya

Mar-05-2017 3:03 PM

Based on the ears, i'd say it's Fassbender, though the nose doesn't look right. The brow could be either Franco or Fassbender. The nose looks more like Franco's. Crudup's features are too sharp, his brows arch, he doesn't match. Walter/David's hair could be slicked back and longer than it seems, the red blood wouldn't belong to an android though. It is possible they digitally altered released footage/images this time around. 

Myrddin365

Mar-05-2017 7:35 PM

The watch and ring match Crudup's. Who is the only known facehugging victim. The face is a mystery. It looks a lot like Fassbender.  It's too early in the timeline for the semi organic constructs from fire and stone.

Safe? Of course he isn't safe, but he's good!

BigDave

Mar-05-2017 9:46 PM

I will try and figure out who the Chest Buster is after..

First i would add about that Laboratory and i thought the leaked Prop room was for the creature department to get some inspiration and use those Skeletons to basically work out how to design new Monsters by studding anatomy of other animals.

One Person on Set even said they had a Cat Skeleton in parts and she took it back with her and confirmed they was used in the design stage of Creatures.

But the Trailer 2 does seem to show some of these are in the movie...

So now i can answer those Small Skulls.... they are not from Monkeys or similar... they are Human Baby Skulls from a Fetus thats over 25 weeks up to a New Born and few weeks old.

Why and where would David have access to such things?

Shaw? how does he manage to get her Pregnant with Humanoids, unless there are Engineers and well they can procreate only they had no Females as they either Engineered themselves past the need, or Females was lost/taken from them in the past (Paradise has dead female Engineers) maybe this is why the Fallen Angels favored the Daughters of Man?

Because there is only a few ways David could get his hands on New Born or Pre-born Humanoid Babbie's.

R.I.P Sox  01/01/2006 - 11/10/2017

BigDave

Mar-05-2017 10:02 PM

"The watch and ring match Crudup's"

Logically we have to assume its Crudrup the earlier Face Hugger Scene where he is trying to remove it indeed he has Crudups Coat..

This shows the person who is Face Hugged could be Crudup in this shot as coat is similar.... have a Green inner layer or have a sweater on under the coat. Or indeed the fleece like coat as seen in the Last Supper and Briefing with Daniels

Crudup is not wearing a Watch in the Last Supper or the briefing with Daniels Clips...  Also his T-Shirt in these shots is darker than the guy who is being Chest Busted a fair bit darker.

But i would think it is SUPPOSED to be Crudrup and maybe has made a mistake by shooting a Stunt Double for this close Scene and a bit of Wardrobe Malfunction too

R.I.P Sox  01/01/2006 - 11/10/2017

Ingeniero

Mar-07-2017 8:50 PM

Thank you BigDave, the image of the skulls is dead on from the front. 

Do these skulls look natural or elongated to you? And it looks like residual flesh on them too so it may be more than an example for the creature department (included in the movie in a bowl). 

 

BigP

Apr-07-2017 8:17 PM

The gentleman writhing in pain is Alexander England, I believe.  He plays the spouse/partner of the woman being ambushed by the neomorph in the trailer.  He can be seen standing next to her in the 'last supper' group photos.

Blackwinter-witch

Apr-07-2017 8:44 PM

David could well have cloned up some human bodies using only a small tissue sample from Shaw, which would cover where the skulls came from, and possibly what was used to generate the eggs, as the clones could be used as just 'factories'.

David was there for 10 years, he doesn't sleep, so it's no stretch he could well have turned a cave or some existing building into quite a lab, and likely made much of his equipment using availabe resources and production methods available in the Engineer city on Paradise and he might well have asked Shaw to scavenge from the lifeboat in PROMETHEUS as well.

*Man's giant leap was just a stumble in the dark.*

Ingeniero

Apr-08-2017 9:53 AM

BigP and Blackwinter-witch, thank you for the comments.

I got a pretty strong confirmation on who is in the grey bloody shirt on another topic (see here) from BigDave and Svanya.

 

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