David's workshop on Paradise with a dead Shaw?Locked36,238 Views63 RepliesAdd A Reply
Haven't contributed since before Prometheus... So I'd like to say a warm heart felt thank you to all of you for keeping us all in the "sort of" know... THANKS!!!!!
Anyways... Appears this screenshot may be of the discovery of David 8's workshop he may have been using since the Prometheus crashed/landed on the Engineers' planet. And that may be Shaw I hate to say, in the upper middle with the chest opened. Many sketches/images of facehuggers and altered human faces and bodies... utensils and facehugger on table...
WERD!!!! I wonder... Did David use Shaw to create the xeno? Blend her Human DNA with maybe his "android DNA" or the like? Did he find the knowledge to allow him to bridge the android/human gap? Did he want to live forever in this way? Or her? Using the blended cybernetic material, create the Xeno? Hmmm...
You know, I could very well be delusional, that's a valid point! Although, in light of the events of Prometheus, and what we've seen and heard thus far about AC, David's plans, and Shaw's suspected part in that - and, in the abscence of compelling evidence to establish, for example, that what we are seeing in this particular scene is categorically human, Engineer or in fact, male - I'm going to go out on a limb and diagnose myself with a serious case of evidence based speculation. Don't worry about me though, the prognosis and treatment options are pretty good.
Speaking of pareidolia - the head on the dissected humanoid of indeterminate sex looks not too dissimilar to this human female:
sunken eye socket
feet size LOL look at those big feet
no female human being
but even all that aside, following any suspected story and logic it is completely impossible that there is a Xeno at the cieling, a covenant crew member in the room - and the well preserved body of Shaw on a table.
Write sarcastic legitimations all day - still delusional and just stubbornly WRONG.
I think the 'bulk' that's being referred to around the size of the chest/shoulders is actually skin folded outwards from the chest area, making it look significantly wider than the rib cage.
As I mentioned in an earlier post, this could well be an Engineer, however the combined evidence (not just this single zoomed and distorted image) suggests that is likely to be Shaw.
Well played Sir. Good luck with that view.
And best wishes back to your alternate universe from the realistic state of mind.
Reminds me a bit of the 'sloth' victim in SE7EN. Wouldn't be a huge surprise for us to hear 'kill me' or 'run' from the body they thought was dead in this scene.
I think it's Shaw, the body is way too small for an engineer (unless it's a younger one) and it looks like it's even smaller than the guy standing next to it and looking up.
The head does have a faint resemblance to Shaw, but I'm not entirely excluding that it could be a younger engineer.
MuzzleNZ That's definitely possible, just look at the overall tone and environment of that scene; it looks like something straight out of Se7en.
Also, considering all the nods to Alien so far, I wouldn't be surprised if she turned out to be alive in a jump scare scene (despite near impossible odds) and hear her say "kill me"
The body proportions of Elizabeth Shaw seem a little off. Remember she is short (5'4") and compact. This unfortunate schelp looks leaner and taller than Shaw. I suspect it is one of the crew that gets waxed early or maybe somebody that was on the planet previously.
Another possibility is that they recovered the body of Dr. Vickers prior to taking off and David said "What the heck...? she's already dead and I really didn't care for her anyways..."
Lot's of possibilities here...
and the next one goes at it *facepalm
but that aside, there still is the mystery about the person/thing/figure next to the black guy to the left crawling away from him defensively.
the guy also holds his fist up in a beating manner and there is an empty table to the left of the dead humanoid (who is 100% not Shaw)
Maybe an alive specimen and now abomination of Davids work? Lurking the laboratory and looking for help when the covenant crew member comes in.
I would imagine he is ofcourse shocked by what he is seeing and fights it off maybe screams at it etc - which then attracts the Xeno/Protomorph.
The figure crawling also seems to know of the Aliens presence and wants to gtfo.
trailer about 2:00minutes in, set speed to 0.25x and look at that section of the screen.
i find this a very disturbing thought
This is intense...Let people have their opinions...!
Come to think of it, David may have created some form of humanoid life that he is now experimenting. This could go on forever...
As far as we know that could be Elvis sitting on that slab...
Let's look at the state of decay. This movie occurs a confirmed 10 years after Prometheus. If the cadaver is Shaw, she died mere days if not hours before the events shown. Odd for David to wait THAT long to kill her and do an autopsy.
Safe? Of course he isn't safe, but he's good!
@Inquisitor I think you're right. He found David's lab, found "something" there, got angry and upset, started beating on him for self preservation, anger, or to induce information, and of course, the Proto/Xeno found them...
To me, this is one of the most disturbing/interesting scenes in the entire trailer. cannot wait to find what "God/David" has been creating/abominating...
Yeah, the body is not Shaw.
There is too many differences in body structure and the hair is dark brown but also short, unlike Shaw's hair.
I think we have enough evidence to believe that Shaw is not the body on the table.
Obsession is a Power, not a Curse ;)
im thinkin there's gonna be 3 or 4 diffrent xenos,
in this new trailer xeno is a proto. fingers are diffrent plus seems more prone 2 all 4 feet then bipedal. bring the new queen!!!!
The body appears to be missing a right arm? There seems to be a right arm on the table, although its green or brown. Maybe a connection?
that would be to blatant to put her in trailer like that not her. maybe a member of crew who gets lost or incapacitated like face hugged that david brings there? whatever happen 2 shaw wasnt good im sure shes not baking brownies
Thinking of the figure on the table, the more I think about this, this is a tall thin man..either that or he has a shrunken head. The options for this are:
1) Rigby, (6'1") but he possibly gets his spinal cord rearranged by a back-burster. (Figure on table looks chest bursted)
2 ) Goran Kleut (My choice) as this joker is 6'6" and gaunt. I am trying to figure out his role in the whole deal.
3. Jussie Smollett. 5'11', think and of mixed descent. However, he just doens't look anything like the figure in the picture.
4. Matt Scalletti. 5'11' and thin, but I think but once again doesn't look like figure in the picture.
5. Alexander England. At 6'3' another possibility, but his body type (robust) doesn't quite match up.
6. Nathanial Dean at 6'1" has the right body type and height, but his hair and facial structure is all messed up. Don't think it's him
7. Uli Latukefu - Nearly as tall as Goran Kleut, but the darker skin tone and overall robust frame rule him out (for me as
well the zoomed picture shows something tha resembles shaw however if its not shaw and if she becomes something else....that something else is the hidden mindblowing reveal in the movie since the trailer gave the monsters away already.
Could be engineer teenager
I don't think that davids lab. I think its the engineers lab. and they're big like the one in Prometheus. the drawing look big too. ( if you watch the part of the trailer where the hooded person is walking back to the temple ) the dead body's the person is walking around are a lot bigger that that person. I'm very curious is to how the engineers got wiped out regardless of who did it. it was obviously a big single event.
For me this looks like a human-sized engineer. Maybe engineers who are lower in the hierarchy that are smaller?
I dont think that its Davids Lab at all, I mean, why would he make those pictures and organize all those labeled specimens on the table? It seems like the engineers (or humans) worked there before david got a hold of it
Make of it what you will, but personally I think the cadavers resemblance is more human than humanoid/Engineer.
And seriously Fifield, you should tone your attitude down and stop being so negative towards everyone here. You've cast a dark cloud over this forum since you've come on board.
Lighten up ♠
@BigChap72, looks like Dr E Shaw, wow good catch!
Excellent image analysis auximenes in the image below.
It looks like a Weyland Storm Rifle in the lower middle of the image.
As far as the being on the Operation/Autopsy Table, its certainly a interesting shot.
We need to look at who this could be and indeed so far the 3 Main Considerations are.
1) Shaw, but jawline looks different and head looks more of a long face. But who knows i will make a comparison also size, this person looks taller and more gaunt that Shaw.
2) Engineer, maybe but it looks like there may be a hair line, its hard to work out but the sunken eye sockets and bone structure and long face does match up with Goran D Kleut, but then its hard to work out if this being on the Table is about 6.5ft tall. Goran is naturally pale to a degree.
The problem with both of those is how long have they been operated on for, and how come they have not decomposed does David or who ever had a means to keep them on ICE when they are not on that Table and he can remove them to back on ICE? So does this Place Act as a Morgue and what does he use to store and chill the bodies?
A lot depends on if he can take a Engineer Cryo-sleep Pod to this place and hook it up, or if these Engineers or what ever on Paradise have in this building a source of Energy to power such things or even if they have similar Cryo-sleep Pods in that Building or City.
The other problem if the above does not apply, is if these are form more fresh bodies that have been their for a day or two then how does this fit with Shaw and a Engineer why wait just before the Covenant arrives to perform this?
So we can consider TWO more options
2) Crudup (Oram) Jaw line could match, but we see a Adult Xeno/Proto-Xeno in this scene but then maybe they grow faster and this shot is David or whoever removing the Organism, but then we also see someone being Chest Busted latter. So again if the Chest Buster is Oram why would David want to bring his body back to the Lab? Unless David has found out a way to harvest something that changes to a Host once it has gestated a Chest Buster?
4) Tess Haubrich has a strong boneline and Jaw shes quite tall, Hell i even thought she was Crudup in the first Trailer as one of those coming down the Ramp but then coat was different to Crudup's in two latter shots.. so they was always a ???
Now i have analyzed stuff and may have a answer for you guys.
Sorry for Quality and Poor Editing Skills, using a basic program lol
So indeed first was the Mystery Person ??? i thought was Crudup from first Trailer but not 100% due to the coat unless he was wearing Two Coats....
Empire Magazine shot however confirms Crudup has his same coat all the way through so ??? is not him, its also doubtful to be Goran D Kleut, so never left many options... Next image in the Cave is Haubrich
The Set Visit reports confirmed she is playing one of the Military Personnel, and the person as ??? in the landing sequence from first Trailer has a Assault Riffle .
The new Trailer Neomorph attach seems to be female, and lighting can pass onto the lighter coat to make it look a bit different but as the image posted above shows, this could indeed be the Mystery ??? Character coming down the lander in the first trailer shot..
If this is Tess Haubrich she did try to shoot the Neomorph with a riffle.
Then we have the cloaked Figure with what now does look like a Flair Gun but then it could be a Shot-gun or Grenade Gun, but regardless this seems to be set near the Wheat Field that the female was attacked by the Neomorph the lighting is the same.
So i wonder if the cloaked figure RESCUES her, takes her some place, and as we see the other shot of Haubrich she is screaming at something... from the first trailer i wondered if she was in the cave system shot just before she screams in trailer and witnesses a Chest Buster?
What if she instead is rescued by DAVID and then she changes from her torn Coat and is comforted by David.... Want a Cuppa Tea Maam..... lol
She is then in horror or maybe held down, as David brings over a Face Hugger, pretty much re-using the Watts (Shaw) Face Hugger attack at the hands of David from Spaights draft.
Thus latter it is her Tess Haubrich on the Table.
Below is shots from Last Supper and a Photo from 2016, she has a heavy jaw line and is more of a candidate than Crudup.
My Guess is the person is either Tess Haubrich which adds up with if she was rescued by the cloaked figure after a Neomorph attack.
Or Goran D Kleut try to do a comparison of corpse size soon
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Fantastic humans and where to find them.
Still no homo(lol) sapiens sapiens on that table, tho.
*casts dark clouds*
It's Shaw - end of story/conversation - behind the scenes shots of props confirm this.
Longtime lurker - but reading InquisitorDouche's posts in this thread motivated me to sign up to shut him the eff up.