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Mystery Man Uncovered....... (SPOILERS)

Mystery Man Uncovered....... (SPOILERS)

BigDave

Feb-27-2017 7:28 PM

I have had a look at the Last Supper Video and Photo Sets and how we dont get no mention of Matt Scaletti no photos and he is not even in the Trailer...

I have always wondered about this photo..

Been a few debates here and on AVPGalaxy yet no one has ever come up with who it is..... i had narrowed it down to either Rigby, or Scaletti and even considered that Walter could be a outside shot... or maybe even Franco... but i always felt and put on here it adds up with Rigby yet surely it CANT?

Not when we consider the shot has to be after Hell as Broken Loose.... i always felt this image was a very very important one, its almost like what they could use for a Promotional Poster, but why is the Male not Facing the Camera... a Secret?

Indeed its got me to wonder if it could be Franco and a lot of debates made me wonder this, but it still looked like Rigby to me.

And James Franco was said to play a Small Role and well, not survive the trip....

We then also had the 4Chan leaks and IMDB guy which seemed to put this person as Damien Bichir the one leak i was given that was detailed, never mentioned who they are but seemed to rule out Damien Bichir

I was always inclined to throw more than a Pinch of Salt with these so called Leaks....

Well with the Help of the Last Supper Photo and Video, i have been able to get a look at James Franco and rule him out, most likely.....  this Viral piece does not have Matt Scaletti so is he some SURPRISE?

Well this has made me do some digging and comparing and by help of looking at very HD Photos and Videos i am 80% Certain This is Benjamin Rigby.

I will Tomorrow post Evidence for this... i think its very compelling Evidence...

In the mean time whats your thoughts?

R.I.P Sox  01/01/2006 - 11/10/2017

34 Responses to Mystery Man Uncovered....... (SPOILERS)

BigDave

Feb-27-2017 7:32 PM

When i get time to post the evidence i will... but here is the list.

*Hair Style and Length of James Franco... and other Characters.

*The 15 Cast Members (Last Supper Photo)

*The TWO departing the Lander Shots HD

*The walking through the Woods Shot HD

*The Opps stepped on a Spore HD

*The Rigby in Med bay pre-back burster HD

*Various shots of Walter/Davids head

*And Finally a Super HD shot of the OT image in Question.

And all of these point to only ONE Person... Rigby..

But how can that be? and it really throws the Timeline off as far as Trailer and those so called 4Chan leaks etc.

 

R.I.P Sox  01/01/2006 - 11/10/2017

Ati

Feb-27-2017 7:34 PM

BigDave, Franco with short hair?

I think the Last Supper short was filmed after the movie, so I was not surprised by Franco's relatively longer hair.

Look at Fassbender's face, I mean Walter's face, you see a tired face. His face looks different compared to the trailer appearance or the promo photos. It can serve as another proof regarding my theory. Or we will see a fatter David model as Walter? It was their approach to make their appearance so different and the scenes with Prom David were shot first then Fassbender put some weight on to film the Walter scenes?

ninXeno426

Feb-27-2017 7:38 PM

Tough to say,But quite possible 

Nothing the God of biomechanics wouldn't let you in heaven for 

GaseousWater

Feb-27-2017 7:47 PM

From behind he really looks like Franco, but the spoilers say he has a very short role.

BigDave

Feb-27-2017 7:47 PM

I thought Franco.... before... despite the rumors of his fate and 4Chan IMDB leaks....

I thought this shot looks like a Promotion Poster, it seems a important one... and we know Franco was only added latter to the cast credits so it was a bit of a secret, i did many a topic on him being this person but i felt it looked more like Rigby.

I think the way Franco has longer Hair at the Back Rules him out....  also how he is Captain but then he is not.... but i wondered could he been sick and then latter comes down to rescue his WIFE?

Seem fitting for them to be in this PHOTO and keep the Face secret.... it would seem fitting for him to come and get her, but then he gets killed Sacrifice himself to save her... hence blood on her face in one of the photos...

This would fit with the Last Supper Viral as Franco Sacrifices himself...

But Alas i have gathered Evidence that seems to cast this theory as Null and Void..

Here is how i feel...

Right now i am

80% Rigby

5% Scaletti

5% Franco maybe even consider 7.5%

So 10% or maybe 7.5% someone we have not seen added to the cast list yet

R.I.P Sox  01/01/2006 - 11/10/2017

ninXeno426

Feb-27-2017 7:49 PM

Some say Tennessee,but I'm not certain of that.

Nothing the God of biomechanics wouldn't let you in heaven for 

ninXeno426

Feb-27-2017 7:52 PM

 Tennessee has longer hair so I'll count him out 

Nothing the God of biomechanics wouldn't let you in heaven for 

ninXeno426

Feb-27-2017 7:54 PM

Nothing the God of biomechanics wouldn't let you in heaven for 

Ati

Feb-27-2017 7:56 PM

BigDave, it's possible that he is Rigby, the hair is OK in Last Supper:

ninXeno426

Feb-27-2017 7:56 PM

Nothing the God of biomechanics wouldn't let you in heaven for 

ninXeno426

Feb-27-2017 7:57 PM

For closer inspection 

Nothing the God of biomechanics wouldn't let you in heaven for 

ninXeno426

Feb-27-2017 8:01 PM

Rigby 

Nothing the God of biomechanics wouldn't let you in heaven for 

ninXeno426

Feb-27-2017 8:03 PM

Scalleti

Nothing the God of biomechanics wouldn't let you in heaven for 

BigDave

Feb-27-2017 8:06 PM

I will make this Boring and Cut to the Chase...

Rigby? This is the Spore Trailer.

Mystery Guy HD Shoes..

They are the same but this is not proof enough as others have the same  This IMAGE

which is a HD shot of this..

This shows Nathaniel Dean, Uli Latukefu and Alexander England all have the same kind of shoe too....

This image shows Crudup and Fassbender have different and Fassbenders Back Pack and Trousers are completely different the same goes for Crudup so its 100% neither of them.

We can rule out Nathaniel Dean (beard, jacket, trousers) , Uli Latukefu (Jacket and Beard and well Ethnicity) and Alexander England for a unique Jacket and Lighter Hair (Blonde)

I think you can agree of the 10 Male Cast we can rule out thus, Fassbender, Crudup, Dean, England and Latukefu and we can for obvious reasons rule out McBride and Smollett which leaves.. Franco, Bichir and Rigby.

R.I.P Sox  01/01/2006 - 11/10/2017

Ati

Feb-27-2017 8:12 PM

Rigby is a chameleon:

GaseousWater

Feb-27-2017 8:15 PM

Mmmm, I think the photo takes place after the dropship explodes (with Rigby's character dying by the backbuster neomorph), and after  they get trapped, somehow they reach the engineer citadel, maybe surrounded by a grown neomorph.

 

ninXeno426

Feb-27-2017 8:20 PM

The temple I've thought could be a potential flashback,but some believe Daniels and mystery guy may not be far from the temple.Not certain how though 

Nothing the God of biomechanics wouldn't let you in heaven for 

BigDave

Feb-27-2017 8:23 PM

Thanks for Replies ;)

Yes i was busy trying to get photos cropped lol

I will move on to Franco...

Hair, Stubble and Sideburns are a no go...

Unless he has a hair cut and trim first ;)

So this leaves....

Bichir, Rigby or Scaletti (who is not even in the cast photo).

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BigDave

Feb-27-2017 8:30 PM

@GaseousWater

Indeed thats how it logical looks.... how i thought about it and so this person was always a interest to me... points a bit to Rigby but then ruling other things out...

That would effect the Timeline....

So i am kind of down to TWO guys... Rigby and Bichir but surely it cant be Rigby due to we assume Back Burster is the first thing.... the trailer confirms Crudup tries to get to the ship before it blows up.... so he is likely Face Hugged after.

R.I.P Sox  01/01/2006 - 11/10/2017

Ati

Feb-27-2017 8:38 PM

BigDave, it is Rigby. I think we've found it! Your image is a great help! Look at his ear! There is something on his ear (between the hair and the upper part of his earlap). He has this something in Last Supper as well: 

BigDave

Feb-27-2017 8:44 PM

Now for Bichir

I think maybe the Sideburns check out, but Ears seem different and also hairline does not look as receded as Bichir has

Only image i have thats as good as i can find...

I think as we only see the left side of the back pack its hard to tell, but the top of it does match with Mystery guy.... but then it appears that the Trousers and Jacket seems a darker color on Bichir

If i am trying to logically look at it then i guess it has to be BICHIR after all....

But the Ears dont match for me.

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BigDave

Feb-27-2017 8:58 PM

Bichir Ears Fold backwards rather than in..

Also Hair is darker for him, so who knows.... i think Logically it has to be him... but its hard to tell

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MuzzleNZ

Feb-27-2017 9:22 PM

Im pretty sure it's Franco. Remember the pre-Christmas promo photo leading up to the trailer. There was an advance party in the dark, weapons drawn, beside a vehicle with lights

My guess is Franco leads an advanced party down to the planet (being captain). Shit hits the fan, they go missing.

Second party is what we see in the trailer. This makes the Daniels comment to Crudup make sense (we don't know what the helm is out there). 

Hell breaks loose, Daniels finds Franco post, but he dies saving her.

I can't see it being Rigby as the mystery man and Daniels see the drop ship explode in the trailer, so a baby neomorph is already there.

Doesnt appear to be Bichir.

the hair- well, Franco felt ill before cryo. He could have cut his hair after cryo as part of trying to feel better.

LVBank

Feb-27-2017 9:34 PM

I gotta put my money on Birchir- when you go to IMDB and scroll from that mystery man shot and a couple more over to the arm wrestle Birchir is seen from behind and the dark short hair with the ears seems like a match- the backburster guy's ears go out a little more when Birchir's are closer to his head and short dark hair.  Plus he wins the arm wrestle with his guy easily maybe it's foreshadowing he's a strong character - the mayor in the show Weeds!

GaseousWater

Feb-28-2017 5:49 AM

What if Franco's cryochamber indeed has a problem, and starts burning, but Walter saves him, giving him those sideburns also the hair gets burned so they give him a haircut something like spider-man 3 but not that exagerated.

 

suwhited

Feb-28-2017 7:42 AM

After studying this(a lot)...It really looks closer to Rigby than anyone else. I throughly am baffled because it wouldn't fit into the timeline that we have come up with on this website.

 

Damnnnnnn. Just when I thought I had this thing figured out...

 

ali81

Feb-28-2017 8:32 AM

looks of the picture id say whoever it is would possibly be under 6ft tall anyway as he if pretty close to daniels and he doesn't seem to be that much taller than she is. do we know her height and the other male actors heights? they look like they r surrounded or in the process of being surrounded. the male is clearly aiming at something and daniels has her gun pointed in one direction but her attention is focused somewhere else. suggests to me big trouble is coming from all around them

BigDave

Feb-28-2017 9:09 AM

@LVBank

I have compared the two

Leave this for debate here....

The ears maybe look a little like each other at this angle, its hard to tell as the Mystery Man is one Peach of a Angle, you could not ask for a more Ambiguous Shot with Specific Lighting.

Hair seems a bit more curly than Bichir's its lighter too but that can be put down to lighting.... Hair matches Rigby's color and his is curly a bit but then the Mystery Man seems to have more short hair at the bottom than Rigby but the image is so hard to make out and Rigbys hair could be combed/slicked back so that it looks like this?

Here is best back shot i could get that shows how his hair can look short from behind.

Sorry for low Resolution and here is sharpest image from the side

Its still hard to make out....

I think only way is to try and measure the proportions and how his head features line up.....  size of jaw in relation to forehead in relation to ears etc etc.

To me the Hair does not 100% Match Bichir.....

But who knows with the lighting... i think its hard to judge on clothes too as Birchir seems to be wearing a more dark blue/green but again the shots of him are in dark and cant get a good resolution to make a comparison.

The Jacket and Trousers in color and style are a 100% Match for Rigby though...

Here is a High Res Image

Bichirs is similar color to Daniels.

So the Mystery Deepens.....

When trying to RULE OUT RIGBY

We have to consider the following...

1)This shot would have to be after Hell Breaks out, i cant see any reason for Daniels to have her Gun out and look worried unless they have encountered a Xenomorph or Ultramorph or something else...   regardless of which... Rigby gets infected and if they saw a Xeno first or something else then surely they would had dealt with him better as far as Quarantine etc.

Logically this has to be after the Back Burster and Rule out Rigby.

2) Height... Waterstone is 5ft10 "  Bichir is the same and so is Franco, and the imagine in question while Daniels is a bit in the foreground and looks a inch or so smaller, her knees seem more bent... i would assume these are similar size which is why i wondered if it could be Franco.

Benjamin Rigby looks a good 6ft 1" in the Last Supper shot but its hard to tell as they are all not standing the same distance from the Camera.

MY CONCLUSION?

It looks like Rigby from behind, a lot points to it being him apart from Height and also well surely this happens after Hell breaks out and we have to assume Rigby is the first casualty

I have completely ruled everyone else out.... unless

*Ridley Scott has Wardrobe Malfunctions.

*Crew leave and depart twice and thus change clothes.

*Franco recovers and has his hair cut shorter and his stumble trimmed down etc.

This only leaves (despite looking like Rigby) BICHIR (despite clothing different color)

The only other Option would be Matt Scaletti

Hair texture is a match, height is a match, ears look similar but i have not managed to find a from behind shot of him, he does have some Moles/Beauty Spots on his cheek near eye and near his eye and on his neck to the right side.

But the Mystery Man Angle would hide these...

I find no reason for why there should even be Scaletti not mentioned in the Last Supper Crew or even shown in the Trailer at all...

Unless...

1) He was awoken after as a rescue crew..

2) Was part of a previous crew...

The latter would maybe fit Daniels as she finds the Dog Tags but this could be explained by the crew splitting up at some point too.

The only other Explanation for Scaletti or a yet unnamed cast member would be this...

Remember this shot with the Code?

There was only One Logical way this worked out, and its like over a 3 day Period.. and seems to hint that another crew went down first...

 

 

 

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suwhited

Feb-28-2017 9:46 AM

@BigDave

After reading your post, I started thing...so I went back and pull up pics on Matt Scaletti. He meets all the criteria and his height is about 5'9" to 5-10" so he meets the scale.

 

 

Just trying to fit him in the storyline.

LVBank

Feb-28-2017 9:52 AM

@ BigDave

great attention to detail- the proximity of ear to hair and angle may have swayed me in your direction...

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