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ninXeno426

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Posted Feb-15-2017 1:38 PM

I was reading about a theory that in order to birth,the Chestburster must wait to be triggered by its host eating.Of course Kane was eating when his birthed,also the was echoed in Vincent Ward's Wooden Planet.Now i know there isn't much truth to this,Mary the colonist in Aliens certainly hadn't eaten.Neither had Purvis in Alien Resurrection.But would take food give the Alien more growth and power?The Big Chap was certainly more deadly than the drones in Hadley's Hope,how many of those colonists got to eat.I know it a silly question,but what do you guys think?

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dk

Feb-15-2017 1:47 PM

I found this 7 minute video pretty good. This guy has some interesting theories (Thanks QES). It touches on your question but doesn't seem to outright and definitively answer it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5i4IsLEgBHw

S.M

Feb-15-2017 1:57 PM

With only one recorded instance of someone eating prior to chestbursting, I'm not seeing a connection.

ninXeno426

Feb-15-2017 1:58 PM

Excellent video.Your right,I definitely have to find the time for those videos.The angle on the chestburster being cancerous was why i posted the chestburster surgical thread.

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ninXeno426

Feb-15-2017 1:59 PM

I almost forgot.Thank you dk.

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ninXeno426

Feb-15-2017 2:00 PM

It's a theory S.M. and I'm not the first to theorize it.

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dk

Feb-15-2017 2:03 PM

nin- he has a video on surgically removing the chestburster too.

ninXeno426

Feb-15-2017 2:04 PM

I saw that.I'm definitely going to give it a watch!

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dk

Feb-15-2017 2:11 PM

Here it is for convenience. I need to sub this guy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DR2ILljzeeQ

Sorry if this gets the thread off target- it is still early!

Assimilated_Xenomorph

Feb-15-2017 2:11 PM

yea I agree I think eating has a part to play in how long it takes for chestbursting to occur. I think it would probably be safe to assume that the alien embryo will feed off of the nutrients of its host and so the more nutrients the host takes in, the more nutrients the alien embryo takes in and thus the less time it takes to chestburst.

 

It probably also depends on the health of the host aswell. If we compare two hosts, one healthy and one unhealthy, which have both taken in the same amount of nutrients, it might take longer for unhealthy host to experience a chestburst because of the strain the alien embryo will have on the host.


Maybe this is why the deacon chestburst out of the engineer that quickly and at that size aswell, due to the fitness and stregnth of the engineer

 

 

Assimilated_Xenomorph

Feb-15-2017 2:12 PM

This also begs the question, could a host so unhealthy that a facehugger would not allow its self to impregnate the host? that's if the facehugger could tell the health of the host obviously

ninXeno426

Feb-15-2017 2:13 PM

No problem dk.Thank you!

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ninXeno426

Feb-15-2017 2:16 PM

Intriguing angle Assimilated_xenomorph.Purvis in Resurrection had a thyroid condition that lead to the delayed birth of his Chestburster.

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Assimilated_Xenomorph

Feb-15-2017 2:24 PM

ninXeno426 woahhh, that's definitely why it took long to for the alien embryo to chestburst. If it took in nutrients at a rate which would have caused it to grow at a fast rate, I think it would have caused a large strain on Purvis due to his illness and would have probably caused him to die of stress and whatnot. obviously a dead host is not ideal so it has to control how much nutrients it takes in therefor controlling the rate at which it grows until it is ready to chestburst.

 

clever creatures when they aren't even born yet lol

Fire_Stream21

Feb-15-2017 2:25 PM

@dk watched that video, great video thanks

dk

Feb-15-2017 2:31 PM

Fire- QES originally shared and I went down the YT rabbit hole. All good!

ninXeno426

Feb-15-2017 2:44 PM

All hail Queen Elizabeth Shaw!Thanks for the amazing find!And thank you again dk for the links!

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ninXeno426

Feb-15-2017 2:47 PM

Did a little research on that Assimilated_Xenomorph.Always wanted to know why all his buddies Chestbursted long before he did.Always great to know it wasn't just a plot hole.

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Assimilated_Xenomorph

Feb-15-2017 2:55 PM

Got that right

ninXeno426

Feb-15-2017 4:16 PM

How about Spike the dog from Alien 3,do you think he ate before it burst?

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dk

Feb-15-2017 4:24 PM

Tough to say. The embryo could have got nutrition from the dog's body- muscle, organs etc.

ninXeno426

Feb-15-2017 4:26 PM

Yeah good point.How about Babe?How did babe die is an even better question

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dk

Feb-15-2017 4:36 PM

I would imagine a similar fashion to the dog. The interesting difference was Babe was dead and hanging but the burster survived. Either way I think viewers are supposed to just go with it. Back then, those creators probably didn't know their movies would be dissected to such a high level as they are now. That just goes to show how much we love it imo.

BigDave

Feb-15-2017 4:40 PM

I am going to agree with SM on this...

as far as how healthy a host is?  I think it would not matter to the Xeno it depends on how the Embryo Grows and what does it need and i would assume they would just need Genetic Material off a Host.

But its nice to speculate on health, i think its something to consider if the Host has some disease like Cancer or something maybe the Face Hugger would leave them alone?

But i would think they have a instinct and would be opportunistic 

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Centauri

Feb-15-2017 4:47 PM

 

 

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ninXeno426

Feb-15-2017 5:30 PM

Lol Centauri !Where did you find those

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S.M

Feb-15-2017 6:40 PM

I've watched a bunch of those Alien Theory videos.  They're  well presented, but also a little frustrating in terms of the conclusions, or rather lack thereof.  For all the videos with 'Explained' in the title, stuff that actually gets explained is very rare.  There's a bunch of theories from different sources, which is helpful, but they generally end with 'What do you think?'

 

ninXeno426

Feb-15-2017 6:55 PM

What's an example S.M.?I haven't watched to many yet.

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S.M

Feb-15-2017 7:00 PM

Pretty much anything with 'blah blah blah - Explained' in the title.

The embryo implantation one linked above is a prime example. And that one even states that 'the most widely held view is the hugger implants a cancerous tumour that becomes the chestburster'.  I've been around this online community for the better part of 20 years, and that ain't a widely held view at all.

ninXeno426

Feb-15-2017 7:08 PM

Alright thanks S.M. The first i heard about it was Colonial Marines.The wiki too.Now i know you're going to say don't take wikis seriously and Colonial Marines isn't canon,but when i posted the thread about surgical removal of Chestbursters,i was curious how many people thought that,because you're right really i don't hear it very often,but i thought it was worth asking.I take it that's not one covered in The Weyland Yutani report?

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dk

Feb-15-2017 7:34 PM

At least the linked blah blah videos give better theories and research than some posts simply naysaying. It is asked what we think at the end because there is no official answer and invites discussion and debate. If there were official answers there would be no need for debate.

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