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The real leakleaks is here.(Spoiler alert)

The real leakleaks is here.(Spoiler alert)

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FacehuggerMember236 XPJan-02-2017 5:24 PM


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ChestbursterMember554 XPJan-04-2017 11:29 AM

I probably should have specified memory loss since we have no reason to assume or deny actual amnesia. But I also wasn't suggesting it was directly linked to the face hug. While face hugs have been known to cause loss/disruption of memory (including Kane who remembered next to nothing) other causes could be anything from black spores, Walter/David drugging him, or hitting his head in the event he were to fall when he gets the hug.

That aside memory loss was only a musing which I say is just as probable as him birthing the Xeno before he even meets back up with his crew (especially if Walter/David restrains him somewhere and tells the crew he was killed). There are of course other possibilities, but memory loss or death prior to crew reunion seem to be likely.


ChestbursterMember554 XPJan-04-2017 12:04 PM


I agree David seems critical enough that it would make sense for his journey to continue into the next film. Whether or not they'd move forward with that idea, who knows. But it seems worthy of considering for a subsequent film.

I also like the idea of Daniels getting a hardcore dose of reality about the engineers, humans, xenos, black goo, and taking up Shaw's role but with the intention to destroy rather than discover. This would fit with her filling both Shaw's and Ripley's role, as she'd have the knowledge Shaw sought and the conviction to destroy as Ripley did. If this storyline is pursued and done so properly, we could imagine Daniels as the metaphorical mother of Ripley and grandmother to Amanda without the tackiness of an actual bloodline. I hope we get both the David and the Daniels outcome. Having Daniels ultimately face-off against the neo-morphs/xeno-morphs, David against the Company, then perhaps in the fourth film they embark in a joint struggle to reckon with the engineers.

Farfetched? Maybe. But with the right approach it could really nail the epic scope Ridley originally sought to achieve.

...or fail miserably :p


OvomorphMember8 XPJan-04-2017 12:37 PM


This  plot summary must be fake. Otherwise this will be the worst alien movie ever for me. There are a lots of weak and stupid ideas in it.


Otherwise I choosed to beleive:

- this is not the home world of the engineer.

- Shaw is not dead. Or at least David did not kill her directly.

- this planet is the real destination of the Covenant. 

- Shaw doen't want to destroy the Engineers. She wants answers.

- David can not controll the neomorphs.

- David is not evil as Ash was also not. He just want to creat. And "Sometimes to create, one must first destroy"


Happy new year!






FacehuggerMember236 XPJan-04-2017 1:12 PM

Regarding for the direction they going the leaks would make a very decent movie with the walter david twist could ne interesting.

I want this movie to be about the goo and why it was made and know more about it..i want to know what david agenda is.

Next sequel i want to know why this primitive engineers are different from the other bulkier advanced ones( space jockey) and why they want to kill us or why they made us...i want to know where the goo came from true origin.

I wanna see the adult deacon..its creation is a process that will mostly likely never happen again..went through a lot of complicate stages. This deacon must be bad ass...god its his host.


However i want to know zeno hierarchy and how they work.

Because they need to explain it. How the queen fits in all of this.for me is a huge flaw. First the egg and the proto and then the quee ...come on.

I want to know why they made the goo..and i want to know it came from the true original beast...something like a ultramorph creature..true ultimate weapon.


I dont really see the classic xeno as dangerous as before in alien..i see the queen dangerous..but i want something to top that. Something that came from the gods and not us..because we are not gods to spawn the perfect organism.doesnt make sense at all.they dont need us to replicate at all.huge flaw they need to fix ASAP.

Deacon must kick any xeno ass it came from a they cant just drop it.

I wanna know what happened to it...i wanna know what happened in lv223.something was chasing them.

I wanna know that and im happy.

And please dont make the deeelict in lv426 2000 years old..cuz u will need to explain how the **** those eggs are there and spawn classic xenos. Dont **** it up ridley


FacehuggerMember236 XPJan-04-2017 2:51 PM



This is not the homeworld of the engineers.this is their paradise..their eden.david destroying it could make them mad and that could go that way..

Shaw is dead i believe.if david or not we dont know.according to leak looks possible. What intrigues me is that the trailer doesnt show us a bad tends to show a bad walter...but then again david can be walter at some point.


I think david is really mean.his agenda doesnt have any consideration for humanity..he doesn t care about us.hes evil.ash was evil or you didnt see the same alien i saw..he had absolutely no regard for humanity no feelings. Bishop is the only android that shows good actions and judgement considering humans.

Shaw didnt kill the engineers david serves a purpose to david..assemble him for him to continue his agenda and experimentation.

This planet cant be the destination of woudnt make sense.

David controling the neomorphs would be cool but dont know how that will be played. I think insight on his exprimentations and lab will explain if its a thing. I think its very possible..if hes playing god he might be into something that has to do with his agenda.controling the species could be part of it. Its not a new concept either.


OvomorphMember44 XPJan-04-2017 2:52 PM

I think, David will continue to research for find immortality.

Who Peter Weyland expectation from him…


Shaw — what will be she/ or was —  we don’t know yet. Also if she died i want really nice explanation for that.

As i am, a lot of people loved Shaw character. 


Different Xeno’s for me it’s goes ridiculously. I don’t want another “Newborn style” weird Aliens.


I want to know how this xenos burn, grow, died.


I think Ridley Scoot seen all Alien and AvP films. And like it to grow story for more money. Maybe Fox pressed to him like that. If a Queen was released 1986, wondering—to—die; why want to change the Xenos evolution way??? 


I want to stay Alien movies a cool classical as Alien and Aliens.


If you want to make a Alien movie, you should be do better than before. Fans want this.

He add Engineer to series but did not answer questions fully.


And this Covenant part, i think still did not explain answers.

They make another alien characters for more talk… Not to tell us full story.


If this paradise planet didn’t Engineers planet, why they don’t go original home of Engineers? 

If Engineers had a couple of planet to live or make black goo, why others don’t want to go Earth and destroy mankind?


A lot of holes had on story…



FacehuggerMember236 XPJan-04-2017 2:55 PM

Double post


FacehuggerMember236 XPJan-04-2017 2:57 PM

The story could be much better. It was really poor writting...and they messed they are trying to fix it but i see this verynhard to achieve



ChestbursterMember731 XPJan-04-2017 8:11 PM

If this is true, my theory about David creating the egg is correct, I'm sure he's the one who pulls the strings altogether, and also the "god"-like entity Ridley was talking about. 

Never since The Terminator and T2 has a robot been so scary imo. 


NeomorphMember1823 XPJan-04-2017 10:44 PM

We then have to ask.. how does Shaw depart... surely she cant fly a ship on her own.... and if David helps her.. to get away.. why would he want to mean Harm to the Covenant Crew.

If Shaw on her own found Engineers or related... how can she communicate with them.... for this kind of Plot to work she would have to meet some very Benevolent Engineers


bigdave.I get what u are saying but remember its been 10 years since Prometheus, im sure shaw would have gotten david to teach her the base language of the engineers in that time and she may well have the basic knowledge on flying the engineers ship, I believe david has a level of feelings (or what he believes r feelings) towards shaw and may protect her, this being his redemption. remember the shaw character is the reason we have a sequal.she is the one wanting all these answers which makes me doubt ridley would want to kill the character off so soon


NeomorphMember1823 XPJan-04-2017 11:07 PM

one of the most interesting bits about this film is the question of which android,david or walter is going to be the bad guy in all this,i think the most logical course is david pretending to be walter at some point as I believe the crew will descover david is responsible for whats happened to the planet and due him being an android and has a program, they wont be able to trust him at any point, or maybe theyr both bad as walter has his own agenda set by the company, its plausible the company are aware of what david has done and walter has been sent to recover a live specimen. possibly davids redemption comes in the form of him seeing the error of his ways and he tries to stop walter getting a live specimen and walter kills david??????


FacehuggerMember236 XPJan-05-2017 2:37 PM

I think david will kill walter...david is a bad guy still. I think in covenant we will see how trully evil david is..his redemption is not so soon if there will be any.


DeaconMember10324 XPJan-05-2017 6:49 PM

We cant be 100% sure what way the Walter/David aspect will work out...

We have to remember the trailer could be cut totally different...  you have to read into the little things and cast comments to try and paint a picture..

For all we know... they find David and they take him away.... at some point... while Walter goes down with the Captain to have a nose around.... and then we see the Face Hugger

It surely cant be a straight set of events.... like

*Find Juggernaught... (at which point there is at least 7 crew members).

*Go down into the Juggernaught Shaws Dog Tag (she never had one, no way anyone elses when she suited up).

*Then taken to Egg Chamber.... and Crudrup gets Face Hugged without the rest of the crew knowing..

THEN... how does David get that item of clothing?

So yes we cant paint a picture of what happens...

R.I.P Sox  01/01/2006 - 11/10/2017


FacehuggerMember236 XPJan-05-2017 7:19 PM

Just for the record as i was thinking for 2 hours a very plausible explanation based on my readings on big dave theories and others.


Alien 5 will be something like..ripley awakes from stasis and we find out alien 3 and 4 were dreams during her hyper sleep.


Weyland corp learns through david the skill to manipulate dreams.

Shaw becomes the progenitor of the eggs..david keeps her in stasis/hyper sleep while exprimenting with her ovaries injecting a serum with goo and engineer dna.



Next alien movie is alien ascension where we learn engineers are a space time travel explains mural and derelict time in lv 426.

They make the xeno king canon to the queen.




FacehuggerMember236 XPJan-05-2017 7:33 PM

Pinpointing the fact xeno could be very usefull for weyland yutani since it destroys life...creates life...and creates the envirnment needed for humans to covenant it shows the back goo is possibly responsible for creating a life support environment. So they want it because with it they could seed life pretty much everywhere they want..and yutani being a weapon could use the goo for weaponised purposes...


I dont discard weyland agenda being david agenda with an upgrade.


DeaconMember10324 XPJan-05-2017 9:10 PM

The Trailer is broken down into these Scenes.

*Bloodly Corridor of a Ship with Banging (potential sound overlay from other scene) this larger section is same as the Covenant Main Ship... unless the Drop Ship has same Derelict Egg Silo Technology.

*Smaller Tighter Corridor (looks long due to clever camera use) hosts a Medical Bay...  a Infected Mr Rigby is inside with Miss Ejogo while Miss Seimetz has run to the Med-bay and wont let them out... que back buster scene....  Seimetz has blood on her.. we can assume Rigby spat out Blood as if they witnessed a prior Burster Event.. Ejogo would also not gone in the room.... so other event happens after.. or in another room witnessed by Seimetz but surely not fully... as she would know what was to come next.  Ejogo has Blood on her and Rigby on his mouth so that answers the blood.

Seimetz  (Pilot Gear so maybe stays on board Drop Ship) whole time)  wont let Ejogo out because of Infection, she then runs back down the Corridor to escape (after seeing what is happening in Med-bay... Ejogo is on the floor, near a Camel Color Jacket... with Blood... lots of it... (jacket is likely Rigbys, or Ejogo)...  we see Ejogo is on the Floor with Knife which is to defend against Attack of Neomorph...  (Question is would Seimetz  run off get a Gun and head back to try and kill Neomorph? or can it find other means of escape).  Does Ejogo die in this scene.. we dont know.

Supporting Evidence is one Set shot bloody Med Lab... either Bloody Rigby or Ejogo tries to get out or bang on the door... or Neomorph Blood Covered does..

*Nature Boy song scene... David Android, other Humanoid and Piano and also Lake/Mountain like Start of Prometheus, Picture of the Nativity and Chair David is on is a Dot in Circle (mean Creation, Sun, Gods, also Spirit and Life) all point to this being a Weyland and David Prologue.. discus philosophy (Creation, Soul, Life and Death).

*Covenant Main Ship entering the location of Paradise, ship is Hammerheaded and large, links to sections that are interconnected (pretty much like one Ron Cobb design i did a Topic on a few weeks back).  Paradise looks like a Planet and has a Moon... its a very cloudy Storm Ridden Planet.

*Interior to Covenant Hangers/Bays... Green/Grey Long Sleeved Top with a separate sleeveless Blue Hoody. (He has look of Concern on his Face).  

*Daniels is in the same bay, (assume) near some Machinary/Truck she is smiling... excited maybe... this shot may not directly link to the above.

*Covenant main Bridge with McBride, Hernandez and Smollett, they are all excited.. on the screen is image from inside the drop ship (Seimetz or Daniels) they are excited as they are about to embark on a journey to see if this place really is a Paradise.... see McBride has a wedding ring

*Scene of Drop Ship entering Atmosphere..first Crudrup and Seimetz in Pilot ****pit.... its a turbulent descent as we see ship is going through a Thunder Storm.  In Aliens Style Passenger Seats and Harness.. see Bichir and Dean.   Ship flies past some Epic Mountainous Scenery and Water. Its Cloudy but Daylight.

*Crew at least 8 depart from Passenger Hold... Fassbender, England, Latukefu, Dean, Ejogo, then what looks like back row.. Waterston (right) Crudrup (left)  unknown Male Center (Rigby).

*Shot of 6-7 of the crew heading towards Camera and Wheat/Reed Grassland, with a lake and mountains behind them but no sign of the Drop Ship... location could be off camera.. but it seems they have walked a little bit before they enter the grassland/Spores....

*Shot of someones foot treading on some Fungi/Plant that releases spores.... a collection of spores (so seems) have combined to make like a odd looking chain much like a small part of a algae infected chain like mini Christmas Tree meets Jelly Fish, that seems to home in and move into a Victims Ear (Rigby) by propelling itself like a Jelly Fish.

*We are in some kind of Mess Room... small maybe on the Drop Ship Daniels (Waterston) asks "are you sure about this Captain" (Crudrup) he replies "how do you mean" (go to next scene then back) Waterston replies "we dont know what the F$"% is down there"... seems to show that Daniels has concerns.. but the Captain wishes to proceed.... (there is a set of Photos of 2 males and a female, then could be just one female is smaller than another) on the fridge.

*Shot of at least 7 of the crew climbing past broken down trees, trees are broken off low... as we then next shot cut to the Juggernaught (type) ship near the Foot of a Mountain, shows it has crashed some way close to the ground maybe had a pumpy bouncy ride across the ground or close...  See again at least 6 Human Crew in this shot.

*See shot of someone coming down what looks like Entrance to a Cave, covered in vines and vegetation... but we can make out its some part maybe of the Juggernaught. However the rain is getting to this part....

*We look down as we see part of the Juggernaught Pilot Chamber, we catch a bit of the Pilot Seat, The Control chair which just in the front of it to the front and right of the panel is something Green like a Moss.. to the left of the Panel it is not symmetric with the right and not like the ship is supposed to be (something left there or growing).  This is definitely the Juggernaught Bridge.. not Derelict.

*We get Daniels finding a Dog Tag or similar.. she looks puzzled by it... as if she does not know who it belongs to.. or it belongs to someone who is not expected to be there.. (does not have to mean Shaw).  The Scene again is a cave like place covered in vegetation with rain/water leaking in.... could very well be part of the Juggernaught... (but has a more Derelict look to it).

*We arrive at a Egg Cave shot.. the Cave looks not natural and so its like some underground Catacomb or lair.. there are 5 Eggs in this shot.... Two behind Crudrup...  It appears he is all on his own in this scene apart from a David/Walter (has a Greeny Grey Long Sleeved Jumpsuit and Dark Hair).  and we see the Face Hugger.

Crudrups look is a state of shock and puzzled... which would be a reaction more to a "whats this Walter" than a "whats this David"

*Next shot is some of the crew (2) running back to the Dropship.. its getting Darker... the ship appears closer to the Grassland and so maybe earlier shot the Grasslands rise at a pitch.  One has a Cap, darker coat.. and carrying equipment the other has the hooded lighter color hooded coat ...

The only people who could be the one in front are... Crudrup, Rigby, Ejogo or maybe but doubtful Walter also hair is same length of Crudrup, or Waterston... coat is lighter than Waterston and Character looks like has not Cloves.. Waterstons Character has them in scenes..

Support Evidence the back to back outside Temple Shot.. not person next to her in front as coat lighter and longer hair.. So Crudrup is stand out Character. Other Character at back with Cap and Equipment can only be Latukefu, Bichir or England.

*Next shot is a cloaked figure... most like David/Walter and scene is dark but there is contrast of what seem like maybe Fire in the foreground? Can we assume its David/Walter? But features match.... they Have some weapon like a Shotgun, Flair Gun, Grenade Launcher.  thats Human Tech...

Underneath the Cloak they are wearing Green, and also baggy ish trousers.. (Walter is wearing Green under his two outer layers of coats).

*Seimetz  is then shown with a Gun shooting at what must be the Neomorph (by the way its confirmed as i watched Waterston confirm it other night) This shot is 100% in the Passenger/Cargo hold of the Dropship (get quick look at the open Door and landscape outside)..  She shoots a Gas Tank instead and Blows the Ship up. Then see a Character on fire fall down the Dropship Cargo hold Doors.. bye bye Seimetz 

*See Daniels and Tennessee running down the Corridors of the Covenant.. McBrides Character hands Waterstons a Gun. 

*We are in the Covenant Cargo Hold full of Trucks and Agricultural Machinery... there is a lot of wind and Daniels is in a Space Suit and its violent event that blows her over... so the Cargo Bay must be open or some Airlock (yep going Alien and Aliens get rid of Xeno route).

*Next shot Tess Haubrich makes a appearance she is in some pain.. or stress (only wearing a Tanktop). On board the Covenant? Hard to say.. has her scream leads to the next shot... (but why would she go down to the surface with no coat etc).

*Backing out of some Cave, its not natural as it has many support structures hard to make out... Cave? Or Juggernaught undergoing some changes....?  We see Two Dead Bodys..  very hard to make out... one closest looks BALD but its such a dark shot and hard to make out nothing but TWO Bodies.

*Finally Matt Scaletti appears in the Shower Scene with Callie Hernandez where the Xenomorph's tail comes from under and behind them.... we get shot of the Xeno head.. and what could be its very large hands with 5 Digits...

There you go guys and girls.... DETAILED look at the Trailer...





R.I.P Sox  01/01/2006 - 11/10/2017


DeaconMember10324 XPJan-05-2017 9:17 PM

"Next alien movie is alien ascension"

Best Bloody not.... thats my Working Title for my Alien side movie lol.... well that or Alien Unearthed... but then Ascension has a better fix to it.. but not the plot..

As its a excavating/digging up Plot.... but then one that they uncover burred Derelict Ship.... which is revealed may also and done some digging of its own...

Its set just after Alien but before Aliens... brings in Engineers well one... a Buried Derelict..   That gets uncovered...

They uncover Caves with Sporelike Egg Sacks.. well basically Gremlins looking Cocoons stuck to the Ceilings and hanging off..

That have a Primitive Face Hugger more like something closer to a gross between a Jellyfish and Squid... produces the Prometheus Fresco type Xenomorph..

So was my attempt to maybe explain the Xeno Origin and Fresco lol



R.I.P Sox  01/01/2006 - 11/10/2017

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FacehuggerMember444 XPJan-06-2017 11:15 AM

Guys don't take 4chan leaks very seriously. They also released a "leak" of the Captain America: Civil War plot that turned out to be complete BS 


FacehuggerMember236 XPJan-06-2017 1:11 PM

Wedont but they acctually nice theories to take in consideration because they make a lot of sense.

It would be awesome if its a total different thing for the better! 


BigDave i love that concept


DeaconMember10324 XPJan-06-2017 6:50 PM

Well i think your love my Trailer Analysis thread...

I will use it as a Spoilery Topic... and dissect a lot from the Shots, and Trailer...  combined with a lot of the cast comments..

I can paint a Picture that paints the time-line.. that goes against the 4Chan leak...

In a nut shell..... the Team Split up into 3 groups.... yet they all make it to the Juggernaught or just as they see it.... but i will leave it for my Topic so as to not be a spoiler...

But i have kind of figured the order the trailer should be in.. and its nothing like how its shown.... Prometheus was similar too.  It meant to miss lead..

The 4chan leak seems to follow a chronological time-line as shown in the trailers..... when actually... the Trailers are mish-mashed together..

Not saying i am correct.... i am playing CSI and ultimately the Jury Decides... but those who would indulge me.. will uncover some interesting things ;)

R.I.P Sox  01/01/2006 - 11/10/2017


DeaconMember10324 XPJan-06-2017 6:55 PM

Mind you anyone looking on this Topic... must be Mad... or dont mind potentially finding out Spoilers anyway...

So feel free to ask questions about the Trailer... or the Leak and i can tackle each scene or leak Plot...

I will start the Ball Rolling with this shot..

Mentioned it on another Post....

If this is not Promotional and its in the Movie.. then its interesting.....

Love to see your take... and im sure you love mine ;) Like playing Cluedo....   Who is that Man? 

R.I.P Sox  01/01/2006 - 11/10/2017

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FacehuggerMember444 XPJan-06-2017 8:06 PM

Keep the theories rolling BigDave! I love your reads! 


TrilobiteMember8212 XPJan-06-2017 8:36 PM


I never looked closely at that image and now I might be looking too closely. I will leave the tactical things alone but I think it is interesting he is carrying a full pack with what could even be a sleeping mat/poleless litter? Also, his cargo pockets seemed loaded as well. Meanwhile, the female is only carrying a weapon and apparently no other gear. Just an observation- probably doesn't mean anything except that if he disappears out there with that gear, the others might be in even more trouble.


FacehuggerMember236 XPJan-07-2017 1:35 AM

hes walter i would guess


NeomorphMember1823 XPJan-07-2017 5:56 AM

it doesn't look like a fassbender character so i don't think its david or walter. the camping looking gear would suggest its when the crew is out exploring the woods and take equipment they may need to stay in the jungle/ forest overnight. theres no effing way anyone would have brought that gear with them if the neos had already escaped into the forest. would u go camping if u knew what was in those trees??? lol

Courtney Estrada

OvomorphMember22 XPJan-08-2017 9:39 AM

Courtney Estrada

OvomorphMember22 XPJan-08-2017 10:13 AM

Hi All! I'm pretty new here and this is only my second post!  So please forgive me if anybody has already brought about this topic. Please see above photographs that I took with my phone before the answers abruptly left.  I've been playing with MUTHUR quite a bit.  We can infer by the spoiler breakdown in this thread the Covenenant is on its way to a "Human Coloney Planet" carrying frozen human embryos. So I did a bit of digging with MUTHUR. I typed where was Ripley born then where was Amanda(Ripleys) daughter born and I got the response "At the Olympia Colony on Luna" Do you guys think this could possibly be where the Covenent was actually going before intercepting the signal from either Shaw or David? To me what makes this interesting is the fact that Daniels is rumored to possibly be Ripleys mother? I know that most of us in reading all the threads hope Daniels is not Ripleys mother? However, could this response from MUTHUR confirm that the Covenant was indeed on its way to the Planet Luna? And that indeed Daniels is actually Ripleys mom and Amanda's grandmother??? We know Ripley had a daughter named Amanda and MUTHUR says that they were both born on Luna Colony!?! I did further digging asking MUTHUR "Planet Luna", Luna Planet, Location of Planet Luna"...etc but received the lovely "Dose not Compute" I know this could be very far fetched but what do you guys think? Have any of you fellow fans heard of the Human Colony on Luna, or planet Luna for that matter? Just something I found interesting, I always assumed Ripley was born on earth?!? Any thoughts on my finding,not sure if it's anything of significance but maybe it's something to ponder on? Thanks guys! I love reading all the fabulous thoughts and theories on this forum it's something I look forward to daily! 




DeaconMember10324 XPJan-08-2017 5:18 PM

I checked the other thread before this, and i wandered the same...

However we cant be sure as the Covenant has a lot of machinery to basically harvest the land for agriculture but then the Moon D 39091BM could have been Terraformed to a stage that its now ready to start the agricultural purpose

R.I.P Sox  01/01/2006 - 11/10/2017


DeaconMember10324 XPJan-08-2017 6:49 PM

Ok guys i will attempt to attack this image...

This image is of Daniels (Waterston) and a Mystery Male... here are some notes. If this is not a Promotional Image and its from Set/Shot and provided there is no Ridley Scott wardrobe Malfunctions.... (Goofs) I will now try and piece when and who this is...

This image is very important it gives away a few things.. unless again Ridley Scott made some scale errors...  First it shows the Temple where there is no Mummified Engineers (sorry 4Chan) and second it appears the Temple is similar Scale to Daniels as it is to the Engineers... which could explain why David/Walter has a cloak that fits.. as these Paradise Natives are far from 10ft.

But onto who the Mystery Man is...

I can back this up with further images so bear with me.. but this shot in the ****pit of the Dropship with a display and it appears to maybe be the seating of the Passengers?  The trailer shows at very least if you watch it the seats seem aligned only along the one wall.

I want you to note... this is Crudrup and the color of his coat......Seimetz is also in the ****pit and has similar but we see her on the Ship with no coats... safe to assume she remains behind (gonna need someone on stand by just in case you need get the Hell away).

Now i want you to study this next image...

Now i will cover the Crew... we can make out 7 Crew-members in this Shot...  We all know who Fassbender is and he would have to be Walter at this moment.

Now i will cover the rest....

1) Alexander England...  Dark Shelled Duckbill Cap, Dark Greeny/Brown Coat, Grey Stipe Arms, and Green Pants/Trousers... carrying a Backpack with Camera/Torch Type Device?

2) Uli Latukefu... Dark Shelled Duckbill Cap, Dark Blue Coat and Grey Pants/Trousers..carrying a Backpack with Camera/Torch Type Device?

3) Nathaniel Dean... Green Aviator Style hat, Green Coat... carrying a with Backpack Camera/Torch Type Device?

4) Carmen Ejogo ... light Camel Coat, Green Aviator Style hat?... seems to be carrying a with Backpack Camera/Torch Type Device?

5) Waterston....(Daniels) Dark Cap, Dark Coat (hard to make out other equipment)

6) Unknown Male... Light colour Dark Shelled Duckbill Cap, Coat Light or dark? Could be Benjamin Rigby his coat is dark green with blue-grey Pants/Trousers

7) Unknown Male... Dark Green Cap, Light Coat... could be Crudrup but in the flight sequence had different coat that he is wearnig when Face Hugged and Running to the Lander latter (as it explodes).  Unless this is his over the top Coat that he loses.

Missing in Action....  Demián Bichir who in interior shot and woodland shot has a Green Shelled Duckbill Cap and Green Coat and is also seems to be carrying a with Backpack Camera/Torch Type Device?

R.I.P Sox  01/01/2006 - 11/10/2017


DeaconMember10324 XPJan-08-2017 7:21 PM

That would make 7 people we can see leaving the Lander... it would be safe to assume Seimetz stays behind...  Safe to assume maybe Crudrup goes exploring with the crew.

We cant make out TWO of the 7 leaving the Dropship, but we know that 100% Bichir is part of the Party and its safe to assume Rigby is too...    So we have 2 Pilots.. Seimetz and Crudrup and if i am right to assume that other image with the 8 objects on the ****pit screen are the seats...  we have 8 crew members..   Fassbender,  Latukefu, Dean, England, Bichir, Rigby and Waterston and Ejogo

Makes sense...

Only its hard to make out Person 6 and 7 in the image i have shown... they dont match Bichir but he could be out of shot. at the very back.... 

So a Mystery is how is number 6 and 7... number 7 could be Crudrup if he has a separate coat over the top of the one he gets Face Hugged in.... otherwise Person number 7 is not a member of the Cast... I would assume Matt Scaletti stays on the Covenant as he gets it in the Shower Scene.

I can think of it only as Goran D. Kleut or Crudrup... but to be Goran would mean the Drop ship is holding 9 passengers? 

Maybe Walter does not need a Chair or my theory of 8 seats because of the dash image on the Drop Ship ****pit is wrong?

Anyway the point of this is to answer who is that Male with Daniels in that Shot!!!!

We can rule out due to appearance Crudrup (Height and Hair) Dean (Beard) Latukefu (ethnically and coat color) England (Striped Coat)

Maybe also.... Bichir (coat color and different backpack) also looks younger from behind..  Guy number 7 from the leaving Dropship shot...  Maybe also Fassbender  (coat looks different) Fassbender has no side burns... and seems to not have a Sidearm on his upper leg or any weapons.  (but he could pick one up if being attacked).

Mystery Person may have some stubble too.....

Right now it points to being Benjamin Rigby however... we know he gets Back Busted....  and this shot is in the Dark and Daniels looks Scared as if they are surrounded or being hunted..  So she must have seen Horrors already.. So i think we can rule out Rigby.

It could be Bichir or England but coats different and i bet one of them gets Spore Number 2 (Bichir had full head and shoulders cast) England said he was a Plot Device...

So i think it has to be either Walter.....

Or then again it does look like Franco from behind... and at some point they have to get off Paradise and onto the Covenant. So maybe a Rescue attempt?

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