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Discussing the alien in the poster

Discussing the alien in the poster

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Movie fan

Nov-30-2016 8:00 AM

I just wanted to talk about the alien featured in the poster.

I have a few ideas to what the alien could be.

1. The alien could be a regular xenomorph.

2. The alien could be one of the neomorphs. (if they exist)

3. The alien could be one of the enormous aliens that chase Daniels in a clumberborne suite.

Feel free to write out your opinions about my theory.

Update: RedXeno428 gave me a new option on the alien in the poster could be, a transition from the Deacon to the traditional xenomorph.

Obsession is a Power, not a Curse ;)

29 Responses to Discussing the alien in the poster

RedXeno428

Nov-30-2016 1:10 PM

Hard to say. It definitely looks SLIGHTLY different from the Xeno we know and love. Maybe it's a cross between the Deacon and Xeno? Sort of like a "missing link" in the evolutionary chain, if you will. That's my theory. It definitely doesn't look like the bulging-headed white xenos we got in the pictures.

Movie fan

Dec-01-2016 4:29 AM

Yes I know it doesn't look like a neomorph, I most agree with my option 1,3,and your option.

Obsession is a Power, not a Curse ;)

BigDave

Dec-01-2016 10:25 AM

Depends how much they are making a Movie to please the Fan Boys...

They are giving away too much.... so i think its all done to actually show us something else but get us to expect something familiar.

I would not be surprised if this is the Revenge of the Sith of Alien movies..... what i mean is Fans Watched the Prequels to Star Wars... waiting for that Moment to see Darth Vader..

And we only see him at the very End and not for Long...

Maybe this is what we have here.... a teaser that we would see the Alien... Fans will be waiting all movie trying to wait for the REVEAL.... but it may only come at the very end  In My Honest Opinion.

Much like Darth Vader in SW EP3...

But Star Wars EP3 cut past some maybe unneeded Evolution to Anakin  to the road to Vader.....  as EP3 was when we Truly saw the Path Anakin Skywalker Takes to finally take that road to the Dark Side.... its where we finally see the Evolution of Anakin to Vader.

And this is what we are going to see in Alien Covenant..

i think we would see some Organisms Related to the Xenomorph, but they wont be the Alien we all know and love.... this movie is a Evolutionary Tale......  but towards the end in the Final Act... i think is when we see a Evolution of these Monsters... to give us the Xenomorph or at least something very very connected.

And i think as much as he Runs and Runs... Poor Walter is going to have to Sacrifice himself to save Daniels.... but in doing so... his Sacrifice gives BIRTH to the Beast Incarnate... Or a Re-production of it.

 

 

 

R.I.P Sox  01/01/2006 - 11/10/2017

Dark Nebula

Dec-01-2016 11:10 AM

I already posted my opinion on other topic but anyways...

Looks like a regular xeno to me.If im not mistaken the Neomorphs were described as having white skin as opposite to the regular xeno who has a black skin.

If it is the regular xeno we all love it doesn't have to be exactly 100% the same as the 1979 design.It could be slightly different from the 1979 design.

I edited the photo with Neomorph head (before 20th century fox requested the removal) and that xeno from the poster.

Neomorph

(I removed the teeth)

 

Xenomorph from the poster

Ridley did say many many months ago that the movie is going to have an Egg,Facehugger and then the Big Boy.

He also added;

We can go another round or two.

Movie fan

Dec-02-2016 8:11 AM

@ BigDave

You are possibly right.

@ Dark Nebula

Your'e right, just ignore option 2.

"We can go another round or two"

What does that mean???

Obsession is a Power, not a Curse ;)

Dark Nebula

Dec-02-2016 8:31 AM

This is Ridley's full quote

"There was always this discussion: Is Alien, the character, the beast, played out or not? We’ll have them all: egg, face-hugger, chest-burster, then the big boy. I think maybe we can go another round or two."

By the "facehugger" and "the big boy" I think he was hinting at the regular xenomorph.

Thats why it appeared on the teaser poster,the facehugger on production crew shirts,hats and the gift poster.Because we all know about it,its more than 30 years old.

By "another round or two" I think he meant that things will get worse and harder as the movie progresses, or that there will be xeno-like creatures more dangerous than the regular xenomorphs.(I think he was hinting at the neomorphs because they do look more dangerous than the regular xenos to me).

"When they mature, they grow significantly larger and walk on their back legs. They were more animal-like in behaviour with fang-like teeth."-AVP Galaxy

Thats why they are keeping them secret, to surprise the audience.

Movie fan

Dec-02-2016 9:00 AM

That is nice to know. :)

Obsession is a Power, not a Curse ;)

RedXeno428

Dec-03-2016 10:50 PM

You guys are over thinking it lol. "We can go another round or two" simply means that he has changed his mind and believes that the Xenomorph can be used in a few more movies before it loses the impact it originally had on audiences.

 

Don't over think it.

Halloway

Dec-04-2016 3:17 AM

It think there will be some more teaser poster coming soon ,this could be just preparation for much bigger advertising campaign.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Chris

Dec-04-2016 7:44 AM

I like Big Dave's correlation to Star Wars Episode 3. I fully expect the Xenomorph to be revealed, but like Dave suggests, not for long and only really at the end.

As for the poster revealing too much, I think they purposely showed a Xenomorph to throw us off. It's a distraction to avoid us figuring out the true secrets this film has in store for us. We all know what a Xenomorph is, what it looks like and where it comes from. There's no mystery there besides it's true origin. I think if they had placed anything else on that first poster we would've guessed most of the film already! Hahahaha at least with a Xenomorph face we're like "well, there ya go, can't really decipher that too much" lol

RedXeno428

Dec-04-2016 10:58 AM

Yeah I think they could've gone either way with the traditional Alien or the Neomorph and it would've had a similar affect

BigDave

Dec-04-2016 4:43 PM

Exactly Chris...

It would be like if Prometheus Trailer showed us in the Poster or Trailer the Deacon....

And Ridley and cast members mentioned... "the climax of the movie is the Chest Buster Scene"  and Shaw gives birth to a Proto Face Hugger"

And a few other comments like was made by Ridley just prior to the DVD release... if these kinds of things was said and shown prior to the Theatrical Release.... well most of the movie would have been Spoiled....

Nope Prometheus gave us some clues... some that throw people off a bit.... The Mural Shot for instance..... this would have led people to think of that we would be seeing definite Xeno connections here.

I think Prometheus made a few mistakes in the later Trailers....  the first ones with the Sacrificial Engineer from behind when we saw the black stuff running down his veins and then tearing him apart...  This was not something of a Spoon Fed Spoiler... it left a few speculations....

Only when latter Trailers showed the Last Engineer too much... especially the shot where he stairs at the rising Pilot Chair.. with Davids body and head on the floor... and the Trilobite battle quick shot...

These proved to much of a Spoiler as they then allowed people who evaluate and look deeply into such things to join the dots... and at that point it was no secret the First Shot quickly of that Bald Dude... with the words "a king has his reign and then he dies" it was then no secret this guy and the other bald guy fighting in trailers where connected... some speculation began as if was it the same being... or another of his kind... (looking into the Synopsis it was easy to know they was separate) and the Trillobite shot with the Engineer, made it easy for us to connect this could be the thing pulled from Shaw that grows up and gets to that Bald Being....

Which then was no rocket science that the 3rd Act Xeno DNA reveal... would be a Chest Buster from such a Creature as Shaws baby...

Those latter Trailers gave to much away....

But we already know more about Covenant than we did from the total Prometheus trailers......

OR SO WE THINK?

I would think they are holding something back... well some details...

And i would not be surprised just as the Mural in Prometheus Trailer did... that the Poster and other comments are going to lead Fans to think they are seeing Xenos all the way through...

I think for sure we would see related Organisms... but not the 1979 Xenomorph.... not until the end...  thats my hunch anyway.

Ridley did say there is a Evolution to this movie.. so we would see things evolve from what we saw in Prometheus... to Alien Covenant that would link to the Xeno in Alien... but also Ridley said the movie would start to show.... how/why and when..

But it would not be until after a 3rd movie it would all link back to Alien....

Interesting is Wayne Haags interview seemed to give us something a bit different.... like we wont find out the Xeno Origin... and that some things are best kept a Mystery..

That wont sit well with some fans.... and so i think we would see something that meets half way....

This to me means the Xenomorph Origins... are from something else.... that we would never be told.... but the Xeno is a Evolution of this something...

it would be like going back through our Evolution... going back to the say explain how Mankind came from.... that we evolved from Apes.... but only explain it as far back as say Homo Habilis

And so to leave where the Apes we evolved from and the next stage a Mystery... if you know what i mean?

For example if it revealed that the Xeno was a Evoluton of some Organism the Engineers came across that looked more like the Trilobite....  and maybe they on purpose or accidentally used the Goo on something that resulted in something that was the Xeno Ancestor that had to evolve a bit to be a Xeno.... but leave the creature that caused this accident a Mystery..

it would be like say if Prometheus went the route to show the Hammerpedes laid Egg in Milburn that then grew and either led to a Chest Buster or similar that looked more Xeno... so we was left with... ok is it the Deacon... or the Similar creature that came from the Hammerpede laying something that evolves to the Xeno?

And they showed us this..... but NEVER EVER... tell us where the Hell those Worms came from in the first place...

I think thats the kind of Mystery they would have to keep... so we would find out how the Bio-Mech Xeno came to be.... but we would never know how and what exactly lead to the very thing that kick started it...

Bit like Spaights draft tried to show us the Engineer Sacrifice lead to infecting a Primate that then lead to Mankind... it never touched upon where the Primate came from... or Engineer.

Where as Lindeloffs went back further and left less Mystery and Answers if you would... as it showed us that maybe all Life on Earth was a result of Engineer Sacrifice...

 

R.I.P Sox  01/01/2006 - 11/10/2017

BigDave

Dec-04-2016 4:59 PM

As far as they can go another round or two?

This goes against Ridleys earlier the Beast is Cooked... comments,

i think they wanted to show us something else... to give us some more about Engineers but then loosely show us what kind of thinking and experiments could lead to what LV-223 and then ultimately the Xeno was about.... without having to show us the Xeno Cycle at all... but clues of its Origin....

After the Community was showing maybe little interest in Prometheus 2 and they was wetting themselves in excitement over Blomkamps Alien 5..

I think Fox and maybe Ridley realized that actually they may need to cover the Xeno more to actually be able to push the broader ideas to the fans..... no Xeno... it was maybe a No-Sell.

So giving is the Xeno answers a bit more... was a way of exploiting the Alien Interest...  they maybe went a bit off Tangent with trying something new.... and now they are back to giving us the Xeno..

Or at least showing us it in some guise..... to please the fans more... while then also with giving Fanboys more Xeno clues... and then seeing Blomkamps Alien 5 maybe touch upon Engineer Technology...

Could then leave Fans wanted to find out what Evil SOB's would create such a thing.... i think the next movie will touch upon that but also give us the Xeno a bit...

But i dont think... but i could be wrong... that Ridley thinks that having from say 40 min in until the end... so say like how Alien Resurrection and Aliens was...  and having Xenos running rampage for 3 movies before connecting to Alien is a Good thing?

Maybe FOX may think so because of the Money?  but i think Ridley is a Man of Pride and he would want to get his take on it than not.... and so either Ridley has given in and been a YES man to give us a Alien Covent....sorry Aliens 2, 3, 4 and 5... or he has managed to get FOX to still try and follow the broader picture but to give the Fans the Xeno a bit more..

There is a risk that too much Xeno on screen and it would become watered down....  like Freddy was and Jason after how many movies.... another 3 Alien movies that featured for say 40-50% of the Movie the Aliens.. as in Xenomorph...  plus a Alien 5 and maybe 6.. (Newt being passed the Torch) would risk maybe DILUTING the Xenomorph....

But going a round or two in a way we dont see it on screen all the time but get sufficient clues... and bring in some related Horrors too... i think would be the best trick...

I think the Hammerpedes were a missed chance..... a sequel that would go back to LV-223 and find out what role they played could worked... but then no need because a Flash Back would work.

As well While we cant say if the Black Goo ever infected Humans and lead to similar Deacon in the past... or Engineer Females... etc etc...

We can surely assume the Worms may have been on LV-223 from a long time ago... and if the Goo Turned them into Hammerpedes in the year 2093..... i am sure any 2000 year ago Outbreak that lead to a Spill that came into contact with the Worms 2000 years ago would give us the same result..

Lindeloff did tease the Hammerpedes where the biggest clue... they are after all based of Worms that are Egg Layers and they are also Hermaphrodites.....  You need TWO Worms to then impregnate each other and both Worms can then lay Eggs...

We saw TWO HAMMERPEDES in Prometheus... and so yeah i guess we can see what Lindeloff was thinking...

 

R.I.P Sox  01/01/2006 - 11/10/2017

RedXeno428

Dec-04-2016 8:49 PM

BigDave, that "creature" that you mentioned above, the kind of 'forerunner' to the Alien.....sounds a lot like the Deacon ;)

RedXeno428

Dec-04-2016 8:55 PM

Do you guys think the white xenos (dropping the Neomorph name at this point) are evolved forms of the hammerpedes? Just as the evolutionary tree has branches, where one path leads to the Deacon, one path leads to the snakes and then white xenos, and then another leads to the black classic xeno?

Thoughts_Dreams

Dec-06-2016 11:12 AM

I also wonder why they show us that much. Hopefully what we will be shown before the movie could be ideas that they have but that won’t make it to the movie. All things that we are shown might not be in the movie but some of it. Perhaps the intention is to show us that it will be much more connected to Alien compared to Prometheus?

 

Giving away too much would not be that fun because then there are less surprises when I will watch AC. The head looks like it could be made from a part of a boot.

 

http://militaryops.esellersolutions.com/item/productImages/product_image_114_10_2_15_24_33.jpg

 

Look at the front of it, it looks kind of similar to me.

BigDave

Dec-06-2016 2:56 PM

We cant be 100% sure what Monsters we will see in this movie i would safely assume that at least One monster is present and this one would be like the Poster.

I looked at the Poster, the new Face Huger Prop, the concept Face Huger on the wall of that leaked photo and feet of some of the other creatures and the image of the Xeno like concept on the wall of the leaked shots...

And when i mix them up i get the impression of something similar to this (which i posted elsewhere)

Yes a Fiber-Glass remake of the Alien Resurrection Warrior Xeno

*Its tail is the same as the leaked AC Face Hugers both the prop and concept on the Wall.

*Its hands are not far off the officially released Prop we saw, just he digits are a bit different.. but the Props are close in Aesthetics to Alien 3 and Alien R

*The concept on the wall of the leaked AC prop photos has 4 Appendages/Tuples like this image above only the concept seems to be more spiked than tubed but similar.

*The feet in this image are similar to those of the feet of some of those Baby-Head Props in AC leaked photos.

*The Head and Dome is very similar, its a mix of the Alien 3 and Alien R and actually the Poster is a lot like the image of this remake of the Alien R Warrior.

I would thus assume that the Xeno in the poster is closer to the image i posted than the Original Alien or Aliens ones.

 

R.I.P Sox  01/01/2006 - 11/10/2017

Movie fan

Jan-13-2017 7:14 AM

We got a another look at the alien in the poster when the trailer came out, we saw the head and hands of the alien during the shower scene.

Obsession is a Power, not a Curse ;)

Rick

Jan-13-2017 8:23 AM

Here is a better Image: Can still barely make out the hand and face.

Movie fan

Jan-13-2017 9:05 AM

maybe we could increase brightness :)

Obsession is a Power, not a Curse ;)

Shasta cyclone

Jan-13-2017 9:19 AM

those are some long fingers..

Dark Nebula

Jan-13-2017 9:51 AM

Is it just me or...

"Live short,and die"

*kills the guy in the shower*

Movie fan

Jan-13-2017 10:18 AM

neat, didn't notice that :)

Obsession is a Power, not a Curse ;)

A L I E N 4 2 6

Jan-13-2017 10:57 AM

Is it just me or are the proportions on the hand and head REALLY strange? Like the hand either looks really huge, or r ally far away from the head? Maybe I'm just not looking at it right. I need a REALLY blown up image lol 

ninXeno426

Jan-13-2017 1:07 PM

It could be the protomorph if theres any truth to that.

Nothing the God of biomechanics wouldn't let you in heaven for 

Tiago_miami_la

Jan-13-2017 4:56 PM

The white morph head you guys see wich is the neomorph user has in avatar its the adult neomorph one...not this xeno. The requested images they were asked to remove wich you can still find show the creatures we will see..neomorph props..and the big white head is the adult neomorph head.

 

This protoxeno after some close study and analisis im gonna throw it here...thats a cross between the ultramorph and the xeno we know in organic biological way no mechs it seems.

His hands are huge..ultramorph resemblance hands completly.

We cant see his size..maybe was purposely hidden..however his hands are bigger then our standard xeno and thats a fact.

That thing is big as hell..

dk

Jan-13-2017 8:24 PM

RS has gone back and forth on this- another round vs beast is cooked. I would like to see it end soon and leave questions unanswered. Continuing on seems like a money grab to me- story be damned.

Tiago_miami_la

Jan-14-2017 8:43 PM

dk thats what ee get with ridley,man is old

He contradicts himself so many times its fustrating and that ends up screwing the scripts and ideas...for the plot holes to appear...

Im really looking foward for ac because there was big changes of plans..what we get its not what was intended in the beggining.

 

Beast is cooked this is not about aliens....after a while...it can go a round or 2....we gonna have all stages again..big chap is here.

Pff....godammit.

dk

Jan-14-2017 9:04 PM

Tiago_miami_la

AC should be good. If I recall correctly, RS said the beast was cooked when it was Prometheus 2. Then when people got excited about Bloomkamp, he then said we would see it all Facehugger up to Big Chap. We have seen all 3 in the trailer (tough to say about big chap though since all I can really see is teeth). It has been said many times but it feels like the Big Chap would appear near the end similar to the Deacon.

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