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[Spoiler] Xenomorph sketch and Deacon Alien spotted in leaked Alien: Covenant photos!

[Spoiler] Xenomorph sketch and Deacon Alien spotted in leaked Alien: Covenant photos!

Chris

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Posted Oct-28-2016 9:15 AM

A sketch of the Xenomorph and Deacon (supposedly) have been spotted in the background of the recent set photos leaked from Alien: Covenant! If you look closely, you can spot various creature sketches in the background.

Now, previously it was insinuated that the Deacon would not appear in Alien: Covenant, but the recent set photo leaks suggest the opposite, or at least partially. It seems as though some of the Aliens in Covenant will sport a similar design to the Deacon, while others will of course resemble the iconic Xenomorph. Check it out:

Zooming in and improving the image quality, you can see, the top sketch is very clearly that of the iconic Xenomorph while the one beneath it more closely resembles that of the Deacon, or Deacon-like Alien:

How exciting!

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Dark Nebula

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Posted Oct-28-2016 12:17 PM

This makes me think,if thats really David's workshop/lab located inside an engineer temple/facility,then all those sketches were drawn by David himself?And those black goo ampules were brought from the Juggernaut that Shaw and David travelled in so he experimented with it.

Theres a camera all the way to the right.

 Looks like its the same room that Scott was in when he did a short clip for the man in a hight castle.

Unless its just a studio's workshop.

 

 

Xeno24

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Posted Oct-28-2016 1:12 PM

I'm pretty sure this room isn't supposed to be David's lab or something. It's probably a room where the studio keeps props and sketches

Darth Shiro

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Posted Oct-28-2016 1:53 PM

cool!

Dinosaurs incredible creatures who roamed the Earth 65 million years ago. Never had nature been filled with so much terror and beauty...

BigDave

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Posted Oct-28-2016 2:50 PM

Indeed very interesting if not a bit spoilery....

I am sure its going to spoil it for a number of people, but for some who have studied the movie Prometheus and Franchise deeply and looked at previous concepts and how in the past they have re-used unused concepts from prior Movies.

When we know David has the Black Goo, and we are going to see Aliens* as in more than one....  Before even seeing these images i could already imagine potentially what we could see.

These works are very valid as far as experiments relating to the Black Goo and Xeno strand...  Prometheus had many different concepts and even Props and while a lot never made it into the movie.. we could clearly see that they potentially could have fitted into the whole Engineers Experiments and Black Goo.

So while it looks like some ancient catacomb and this set may actually appear in the movie.... i also think they used he location to house various concept work.

And as with Prometheus this does not guarantee  which of these we would be shown, but certainly a lot more has made it from Concept Drawing to Actual Prop work this time.

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BigDave

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Posted Oct-28-2016 2:55 PM

It has a very Museum/Collectors look to it and it could be a place where David has studied remains (Fossils) and experiments or even conducted them himself.. it has that look to it... but it could also be work carried out by beings who had been at Paradise Prior to David.

But the biggest questions are surely where does David get Pen and Paper.... or are we being niave to think the Engineers never possessed such things... or would they need to use them depending on what alternatives a advanced culture has.

But indeed the notes near them look like modern writing maybe English and its highly like this is just the Art Department/Prop Studio Model and Concept Room.

Why in such a room and way?

Maybe this room would be used for a few shots in the movie or maybe its there for added inspiration during the design and creative process of the Production Team.

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Chris

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Posted Oct-28-2016 3:39 PM

The sketches are clearly not part of the actual film I would assume, but sources have claimed that David spend a hefty amount of time tampering and experimenting with the Black Goo and creation, specific to the Xenomorph.

My biggest question is... Eggs and Ampules... In the same room. Again we're brought to the question, what came first the Black Goo or the Egg?

I want to say the Eggs are, like the Neomorphs spores, a result of a local ecosystem being exposed to heavy doses of the bioformer. But, what if, like some have suggested, the Eggs are used for their genetic properties, and thus are the "secret ingredient" in the Black Goo? These questions get my head spinning.. haha

BigDave

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Posted Oct-28-2016 4:37 PM

Indeed the sketches do look a bit odd if we assume David was drawing them while conducting experiments and wanting to become his own Charles Darwin in how he studied many Plants and Organisms in the same fashion.

We thought Matt Damon Scienced the S£!% out of Mars.... thats nothing compared to maybe what David has been up to.

Looking at the set photo's we have evidence of other kinds of Life including a Skeleton of a Bird looking Organism thats very similar to a Dodo Skeleton....

We have New-born or Pre-born Baby Skulls....

And we have the Babyhead design finally made into a Prop and another creature next to it that looks infant and similar to some other Fifield Concepts...

Hard to figure why they would be done and not used, but Prometheus had a few designs make it to Prop stage that was never used.

We have to wander as i said in the other thread... how could we get to those Two Baby/Child Xeno Mutations...

Maybe its to early to jump to conclusions... but the Covenant has couples on does it not?    And maybe David is playing not so nice Dr's and Nurses...

When the Spore leak came the other day, i felt the way the Spores worked as was suggested just did not do it for me... it had flaws... i suggested a different route..

Spores, in my oppinion be better suited to Mutate the Genes like Fifield Monster.... and i wandered... what if those Spores infected a Female who was Pregnant...

A Pregnancy Chest Buster with Mutated Child would certainly be that Chest Buster Beating Scene.... and those Babyhead Props taken from the Covenant Set would fit in with such a Event.

Thats not to say it is this way though... but its what makes more sense.

 

 

 

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ZetaReticuli

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Posted Oct-29-2016 1:19 AM

I think everything shown above someone's sneaky photos of the creature design/build workshop whilst the staff was on dinner-break. I should know (wink wink).

ZetaReticuli

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Posted Oct-29-2016 1:21 AM

The Giger Baby things are something I'd love to see in the film. The more grass roots early Giger (e.g. Necronomicon slimy humanoids and orifices) the better. It should pull no punches this time around with plenty of intensity of theme, dialogue, horror and terror.

Thoughts_Dreams

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Posted Oct-30-2016 5:30 AM

Xeno24: I hope that you are right. It would be disappointing to see how the lab would look like before we get the movie. Hopefully they will manage to make the atmosphere of the place into something nasty like you will get a feeling of the amount of (at least intended) death and destruction that went on there.

 

These could just be examples of props that they have made this far and maybe some other will be made after we have seen these pictures?

BigDave

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Posted Oct-30-2016 3:09 PM

@ZetaReticuli

Indeed looks more like that, but i also wander if this set would be used for a scene... if not then i think the Workshops setting is based off a actual set in the movie.

The aim as you had hinted at, could well be to draw inspiration when they are designing concept work.

I dont think we can be certain every design here would be in the movie because there seems to be a lot of concept work and no doubt they could be using concept drawings from Prometheus as Inspiration too, as the Image we had of the Xenomorph Hands from AC had what looked like Hammerpede concept work.

Another thing is while in the back ground we see a lot of concept works, and some could be from Prometheus and others new designs and designs based off those Prometheus concept works.... Even the new designs and props we cant be 100% sure if any or all would become final designs we see on the big screen next August as Prometheus had a few designs and props that was never used.

 

 

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BigDave

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Posted Oct-30-2016 3:11 PM

I will also add maybe we cant read too much into some of the unrelated props...

There is a lot of skeletons there, some that look like Aliens Xeno Heads, but its hard to make out....  And so while we have Humanoid New Born Baby Skulls for example and a Flightless Bird Skeleton....

These again could be actual Skeletons that are merely there for the Art Department to take as inspiration rather than expect them to be things we would see in AC.

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BigDave

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Posted Jan-11-2017 6:11 PM

Looking at what we know now...

Indeed those two sketches are now very relevant...

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Neomorph

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Posted Jan-11-2017 7:12 PM

The picture beneath the xeno looks like the neo.  

The xeno looks like a newly designed version compared to the classic big chap below, note the difference in head shape and back protrusions: 

 

Neomorph

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Posted Jan-11-2017 7:15 PM

Adult Neomorph head in profile:

ali81

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Posted Jan-13-2017 5:24 AM

david knows nothing of the deacon as neither he nor shaw saw it. only way david wouldv drawn an accurate depiction of the deacon is if he has created one or there r already deacons on the planet. or... during his explorations he has come across ancient cave paintings?

A L I E N 4 2 6

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Posted Jan-13-2017 8:12 AM

So I have a theory:

 

What if in a flashback sequence David uses Shaw to recreate the trilobite with a surviving engineer to create a Deacon, then tampers with the Deacon, enhancing and evolving it, turning it into the protomorph? 

BigDave

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Posted Jan-15-2017 6:31 PM

I think maybe  and this could be off-screen

But while David did not witness the Deacon... i would assume Shaw would mention about what happened between her and the Engineer at some point to David... and i think he may have gathered enough information from the Engineer Writings and Mural etc.... to have a very educated guess as to what Fate that Engineer now had.

I think surely he would be very interested in finding out the outcome but wont go back down to LV-223 but surely indeed he would love to carry out more experiments.

We dont know for certain yet what Monsters we shall see, or have clues for....  we Definitely know there would be TWO in the movie that are the Neomorph and the New Designed Xenomorph...  One variety from the Spores, the other from the Eggs.

But as far as what else we are shown and how those Eggs came to be... i think we need to be prepared for a lot of ambiguity and maybe the only big clue could be that maybe the Spores came about from a Black Goo infection...  but i have a feeling the Eggs will be left as ambiguous as the Mural and Frescos in Prometheus.

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BigDave

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Posted Jan-15-2017 6:37 PM

As far as the Neomorph i think it would look like a cross between these two images.

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BigDave

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Posted Jan-15-2017 6:39 PM

The Xenomorph...

Very similar if not the same as these from the Sideshow Alien King Maquette (The smaller Xenomorphs that is).

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Tiago_miami_la

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Posted Jan-15-2017 8:46 PM

Look at those little puppys.... big dave..

And then look at that magnificent beast upon them...

Thats what they did to alien....converted it into a little puppy thst strikes no fear to me anymore.

And they know that and thats why its cooked.

Bringing new ones amd scary ones like neomorlh is a good run.

I really dl hope the xeno in ac is not similar to that one..and i hope its bigger...otherwise pfff...i will be in a meh state.

 

c_monster

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Posted Jan-15-2017 9:06 PM

Maybe the Deacon got on to Shaw's and David's ship, just prior to their departure....;-)

MuzzleNZ

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Posted Jan-15-2017 10:11 PM

Yeah, one thing that always bugged me is Shaw's warning message at the end of Prometheus. Where did she record that message and where is it being broadcast from. The obvious answer is the life boat (unless David helped Shaw record something on the crashed Juggernaut). That would mean going back there, surely. That would open up to possibilities around David seeing the Trilobite (assuming Shaw unzipped the bag!) and more time for the Deacon to gestate and possibly tag along.

I personally don't think the Deacon did get on their ship, but there are more loose ends in Prometheus than a crowded street corner in your local red light district.

Shasta cyclone

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Posted Jan-16-2017 9:59 AM

I would think the signal is from the life boat. Its supposed to be able to sustain life for 50 years plus the fact she most likely knows how to use it or figure out as far as sending a signal. 

MuzzleNZ

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Posted Jan-16-2017 10:49 AM

Going back to the life boat raises all sorts of issues, not least of which is Shaw not knowing if the Engineer and/or Trilobite are still alive, and risking being attacked again.

So many questions!!!

BigDave

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Posted Jan-16-2017 4:24 PM

"I really dl hope the xeno in ac is not similar to that one..and i hope its bigger...otherwise pfff...i will be in a meh state."

I dont think you need to worry... those Xenos in that model are supposed to be normal size.. its the King thats Huge... but i think this is not going to ever be used.. (king)

Just i heard the Xenomorph is going to be close to the look of those Xenos, and they are not able to redesign it a bit so that it fits more with the Queen Aesthetically as far as Biological and also how they was attempting the design in AR...

Because they now have Technology to create a design that would explain how they can move fast, and are not limited to the 70's and 80's Man in a Suit Costumes.

Thats what i was told...

And so it appears we would be getting something less Bio-Mechanical than the 1979 Version but something more closer to the AVP and AR attempts only done more better.

So i would expect a 1979 Xeno, meets Alien 3 design, with a completely re-designed Legs to fit with the Aesthetic of the Queen.

Which the Xenomorphs in the Sideshow Statue have, apparently they can now move around as quick as Rats/Mice.

Better go and create a Bio-Mechanical Jonesy to kill them off then

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BigDave

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Posted Jan-16-2017 4:26 PM

As we can see in this image....

For me personally i think showing something very similar to this on the big screen would be great and having them now being more agile is a bonus..

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BigDave

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Posted Jan-16-2017 4:31 PM

As far as Shaws SOS

The easiest way to look at it is this..

We can assume the Rovers and Quad Bike thingys... have Radio Communications with the Main Ship.... it would make perfect sense...

Shaw records a message... that is sent to the Prometheus which is destroyed but also the Life Boat is able to then pick up and log this message.

So anyone who discovers the Lifeboat will find the message..

But maybe she can when sending it.. have it so its transmitted remotely.

Or

*The Buggy can be set to transmit a SOS itself....

*They quickly went back to the Lifeboat, prior to the Chest Buster Deacon... but i think that would be stupid on Shaws behalf.

*Or somehow she managed to get the Juggernaught to Transmit the signal.....

AC seems to tease maybe the Covenant could pick up a message from the Juggernaught on Paradise and so maybe this is the route they would go.

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BigDave

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Posted Jan-16-2017 4:37 PM

Regarding the Showcase Model...

I love how they have done it, it looks cool.. nothing i would want to see on screen..

But i would love to see the guys who made this, do one of those Xenos in the Model to the same scale size... that would be amazing.

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