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What would you do, with the Black Goo...

What would you do, with the Black Goo...

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Diz

Sep-06-2016 6:39 AM

Imagine with me, for a moment, if it were your job to stop the spread of this evil substance.  Instead of "D-15" trying to harness this tech, let's say for the moment sanity prevailed, and the decision was made to destroy all this crap. 

So your expedition sallies forth.  In my case, I would have a full Squadron of pipe hitters, in armored EVA suits, with the latest in kinetic and energy beam weapons.  Even man-portable nukes. 

LV223 would be nuked from orbit.  Same with LV426.  No sense even messing with it.  Done and done.

The question is, how do you handle the missing croissant and David?  Yes you could also nuke "paradise" from orbit, but you might want to consider whether any of the colonist could be rescued, versus the chance of any xenos escaping.

The answer would seem to be send down a team to attempt rescue, but have the ship in orbit with the remaining crew, that still has the option of nuking from orbit if everything goes to shit.

So we are gaming a strictly scorched earth policy here.  Go in, destroy, return.

The xeno infestation can be likened to a strain of ebola virus, in that it is very destructive , but yet it burns out very quickly with no more "fuel".  So if it is isolated on a planet, with no more "hosts", it will go into hibernation mode.  From there it is simply a matter of destroying it before any more can reach a host organism.

So yeah from my perspective, if the mission were to destroy this stuff, instead of playing with it, how "simple" would it be? 

Now this presumes two things.  That the intel is present from previous missions, and that the decision is made to destroy it. 

Alas, this is probably not in the cards.  At least if you want to see creatures chasing another crew around, and another heroine emerge.

But...

What if?

13 Responses to What would you do, with the Black Goo...

Michelle Johnston

Sep-06-2016 8:51 AM

@Dis 

In the beginning nothing is inherently evil. The same applies to the harnessing of nuclear energy. Both nuclear energy and the catalyser at the beginning of the film are about the building blocks of the very essence of life they are a part of the construct of the creator. Just as Pie, the Golden Mean and the elements are part of the revelation of the creator.

Given the Black Goo is a corruption of the catalyser I think to aim to destroy it through the forces of fission or fusion could set off a change reaction which could re organise all of creation. It could implode and evolve with horrific exponential results .

The Space Jockey set the derelict down and set of a beacon. This was right behaviour what wasn't was the amoral pursuit of the ALIEN by the science division who may well know of its origins through the "Covenant Incident".

I think the universe is large enough to quarantine the materials and in the pursuit of knowledge and WISDOM mankind must seek to curb its curiosity for forbidden knowledge, which the goo represents, and seek not to create Paradise on some far flung world but to seek its mysteries closer to home.        

 

 

Diz

Sep-06-2016 9:14 AM

@MJ: Wow good point.  If Black Goo is real voodoo stuff then nuking might have adverse effects, such as just vaporizng it and spreading it?  Like the dust in a comet's tail? 

Perhaps something like a sealed storage site, like spent nuke fuel.  Maybe Arm and Hammer Baking Soda, followed by quick hardening cement!

Again spot on, nothing is inherently good or evil; it is up to the individual to make that play, BUT, I think it's safe to say that Black Goo is tainted goods!

Perhaps some kind of neutralizing agent could be found; some kind of disposal protocol established. BUT now we are talking about a full scale scientific mission, with full force protection element.  Much riskier proposition to say the least. 

At least one deacon running around on LV223, possibly many more different life forms (worms, hammerpeds, etc.), plus who knows from exposure to black goo from the wreckage?

LV426 still has an intact egg farm in the derelict?  Not to mention the odd bug that may have survived.

And "paradise" yeah another can of worms.

The irony is they are so far away from us as to be practically no threat, but through man's hubris, they might be brought to earth, which would be catastrophic to say the least. Yeah that would be the ultimate result of the pursuit of forbidden knowledge.       

 

Diz

Sep-06-2016 9:35 AM

MJ: You brought to mind an old memory of mine.  I think it's almost applicable here.  Anyways back when I was oh about 16 years old, I was in Sunday School, in the back row, playing grab-ass, when the professor called me out.  Now this guy was a real professor, PHD type, and he asked me summarize what he had been talking about for the last hour or so.  For some unknown reason, even unto this day, I must have been somehow listening, for I started with this dissertation that my mates sat back with amazement from.  It went something like this:  For the past century man has been pursuing the unlimited economic/technological expansion, which has limits.  For example, industrial waste, pollution, eradicating natural resources, etc.  Instead he should be pursuing unlimited spiritual expansion, which has no limits.  Now you could have heard the proverbial pin drop after I gobbed on about all that.  The professor was even impressed.  And thanked me for my feedback.  Later I dated his daughter, but that's another story.

So what I'm trying to say is that MJ is spot on here.  If we try for unlimited spiritual expansion, in the sense that we try and be the best people we can, rather than trying to exploit all natural resources/ technology in the pursuit of economic gain, we'd all be better off.  That would include xenos for the Scientific Division.

Sermon over, let us all stand and sing.        

Patient Leech

Sep-06-2016 10:39 AM

Begins singing:

"A-maz-ing grace, how sweet the sound, of Xen-os kill-ing thee!"

Hahaha..

Yeah, I don't think it's really possible to destroy the Black Goo. It simply is. It will be interesting to see if we ever get an explanation of its origin in any of the coming sequels. Whether it's Engineer-made or some other creature-made or some sort of naturally occurring substance.

Diz

Sep-06-2016 11:04 AM

@PL: That was pretty funny.  Can I get an Amen?

Michelle Johnston

Sep-06-2016 11:12 AM

@Diz 

What a great response. I really appreciate your open minded confidence. You see I think Damon converting from Eggs to Ampules hugely amplified the story the Goo is way more dangerous and primordial than the Alien Life cycle. I have a suspicion, call it a hunch, that John Logan has seen that and therefore the explanation of the Life Cycle will be very specific and focused whilst the Goo will remain "Cosmic" for want of a better word. David may simply tell Daniels that there GM experiments had an accidental consequence which is the implication of Ridley's Ebola remarks.      But then be found out for pursuing the kind of experiments we see in Resurrection - tampering with mankind at a more intimate level.

I have you in class I thought that was great story telling.

rumsmuggler

Sep-07-2016 8:29 AM

I would try the black goo on something small and relatively harmless first, and work my way up from there.

Facehuggers

Sep-07-2016 4:28 PM

I'd use it every morning in my bowl of cereal.

Thoughts_Dreams

Sep-12-2016 4:27 AM

Maybe trying to mutate life forms and see what it becomes? The black goo seems to be very dangerous so I think that the best thing that could be done is to let it be or eventually destroy it to prevent it from being used to destroy things.

Woolson

Mar-26-2017 5:13 AM

I would use it on synthetics  and have a flamethrower right next to me if anything goes wrong 

Cleaner than Earth Actually

Grinning & Dropping Linen

Mar-26-2017 11:38 AM

To quote Ripley, "nuke the site from orbit, its the only way to be sure"....

I believe the safest way to deal with it would be nuking it from from orbit. Of course the black goo being some cosmic horror could maybe survive as someone mentioned above. Become particle dust after the explosion spread throughout the galaxy, like a spec of dust floating through the universe until it comes in contact with something where it would then become active again. Of course it if all the urns exploded and became particle dust the explosion would send dust particles in every direction through the universe to just float in space  until they might possible be activated by an organism or the proper conditions or atmosphere.

Similar to the movie Life, it was a microscopic organism (could have been dust) but through tinkering and circumstance they activated it.

Any attempt to harness, harvest or go down to the planet with the black goo is not an intelligent choice. There could be some compound or agent that neutralizes it but how would we know with out experimenting and experimenting would require interaction and to be in close proximity which would both be irresponsible and dumb to attempt with the knowledge of how volatile this stuff is.

 

So in order the best plan for it are :

1. As someone said just to leave whatever planet or moon it is on alone....never go there, never land, maybe even assure that no one goes there, place a quarantine station near the planet to ward off and even destroy any attempts to land on the infected planet...FOREVER..perhaps this is what the original Space Jockey had desired when he landed on remote LV426, but his hopes of everyone staying away were futile .

2. Nuke the site from space

3. We are all doomed, it is a compound beyond our control and comprehension and there is nothing we can do to it

 

 

Shasta cyclone

Mar-26-2017 4:53 PM

You can super freeze it, contain it, store it in a rocket, and guide rocket into the nearest star.....incinerated!

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