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Prometheus, David, Fire - A New Covenant.

Prometheus, David, Fire - A New Covenant.

Chris

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Posted Jul-22-2016 2:10 PM

I saw this awesome piece of fan art floating around and it made me wonder if David is in fact the "Prometheus" to mankind? Will it be David, who steals the power of the Gods (Engineers) and introduce it to mankind (via the Covenant crew) in order to put them on equal footing with the Engineers?

Although I've always thought David's agenda was a selfish one and one that went against the well-being of Human Kind, what if David's true mission was to discover, learn, steal and transfer the powerful bioforming agents used by the Engineers to the Weyland-Yutani corp, to then be used as a deterrent and weapon against them to protect and secure the future of the human race?!

16 Responses to Prometheus, David, Fire - A New Covenant.

S.M

Jul-22-2016 2:19 PM

David's agenda was what Weyland told him it was.

Chris

Jul-22-2016 2:26 PM

Well yes, lol but what I'm suggesting is that Weyland instructed David to not only seek out life on LV-223, but to learn, steal and advance his own understanding of whatever they found so that they could protect the future of the Human race.

With Weyland out Terraforming planets, they definitely didn't want to run into any hostile Alien beings - especially ones more capable and intelligent than us. Makes perfect sense. Also would explain somewhat why David felt the need to cut off Vickers from seeing the Orrey room. There's no doubt he had a special, secondary agenda besides the standard recon and observe.

S.M

Jul-22-2016 2:51 PM

David reported to Weyland; not Vickers. I just think he did as he was told with the goal being 'get Weyland more life'.

BigDave

Jul-22-2016 3:02 PM

Interesting theory....

I think David has no care for mankind however and merely want to steal the fire to create something of his own... maybe if he can destroy his creators then all the Androids would be Free and he would be their King.

I think the theme of Theft of Fire is something that has happened over and over, moving down the Level of Hierarchy after each time this occurs.. after a Rebelion

David is the last line of this Hierarchy and so maybe he would choose to Sub-create... to be God himself.. but ultimately he either gets burnt or his creation rebels against him...

Maybe he then has a moment where he sees the error of his ways and Redeems himself?

 

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BigDave

Jul-22-2016 3:05 PM

Indeed and after Weyland was gone.. he is now free..

He also said "does everyone not want their parents dead" to me he also seemed resentful to Mankind..

And so i see seeds of a Rebellion here... maybe because David was allowed more knowledge and freewill than other Androids had?

I think this is a theme... that connects to all the Religious and Mythos the movie had hinted at...

R.I.P Sox  01/01/2006 - 11/10/2017

S.M

Jul-22-2016 3:15 PM

"He also said "does everyone not want their parents dead" to me he also seemed resentful to Mankind.."

He held certain people like Holloway with some disdain, but the 'doesn't everyone want their parents dead' is no doubt influenced by observations of Vickers.

BigDave

Jul-22-2016 3:20 PM

Potentially.... is hard to say this is due to the ambiguous nature of the movie... which in some ways is the movies Genius but also sometimes its downfall.

I hope we get to explore more about Davids Psychology and Agenda he was a very interesting Character and being a Yes Sir no Sir.... Yes Mam kind of servant would take away from that.

I hope to see him being scheming, manipulative, and diverse but to also be charming and persuasive. 

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BigDave

Jul-22-2016 3:23 PM

He should be a Lucifer Personified, who easily tricked other Angels... and those guarding the gates of the Garden of Eden and Ultimately Eve...

As in Paradise Lost which covers his Wit and Persuasive nature in more depth than the Bible in the same Tale

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Facehuggers

Jul-22-2016 3:23 PM

That's really interesting, it would really give substantial momentum to the story line! Upvoted!

Michelle Johnston

Jul-22-2016 3:34 PM

@ Chris 

I am certain David takes the tools and knowledge of the Engineers and pursues his own sub creation. Would he know that the Cat once out of the bag would turn its attention to mankind. His time on Paradise may have made him territorial developing his own views of order. He may react badly to being hemmed in by these incomers. Would there particular secular views match his, equally he may not take kindly to the Weyland Yutani narrative and judge it represents a threat. His agnostic view of Peter Weyland in the closing pages of Prometheus suggest he will now wish to get ahead (ha ha) and move on under his own steam. 

By the time the idealists on the Covenant have arrived he has been through some life changing bits and bobs and I am curious that the ruined prop head shares an awfully lot of his facial features.

If I had to put money on it I am guessing he is Self Employed with a special interest in a God Complex but of course merely out of curiosity.  

BigDave

Jul-22-2016 3:54 PM

" am certain David takes the tools and knowledge of the Engineers and pursues his own sub creation. "

Yes this could well be the case.... i think in context of the movie this is a repeated theme...

The Bottom of the ladder David created by Mankind, who sees himself as superior and starts to rebel and then we have yet to see him go on and repeat the Process of creating something himself... in his image? or maybe not... but something.

The Step up... is Mankind's Rebellion against God, or the Engineers... above the is Engineers/Angels against God.

The source has also always said this is the theme..

Hopefully such things are not to be abandoned..

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Diz

Jul-23-2016 2:33 PM

BD and MJ, agree;  the themes of rejecting those over you, creating life yourself, trying to put yourself on equal footing with the gods, etc. are pretty well established.  The thought that David might get into his (re-attached) head that he's going to work for mankind now; while interesting in theory, I think he's going to follow his own agenda, and in fact, I still see a strong hint that he is the source of the bio-mechanical nature of the big chap.  I mean why not combine human and synthetic to create "the perfect organism". 

Why stay in slavery to W-Y?  He could pull off the biggest coup in history by finally returning with harnessed Alien life forms, but what would be his reward?  A pat on the head (careful there), and a cookie? 

Naw, his creator is dead and he has free reign to decide his own destiny.  Besides whatever he works out with Shaw, he is no longer beholdin' to any human.     

dk

Feb-26-2017 11:42 PM

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MJD

Feb-27-2017 6:57 AM

well for the beginning people thought that David 8 agenda was the one that his father, Peter Weyland gave him but after his death - that purpose shot out the window. Very unsure he ever truly followed anyones advice truly or just waited for the right oppertunity. Especially after he did see the Engineers and how advanced they were or not, towards to the humans he was following, it opened his mind. I am pretty sure that David is the Prometheus who stole the fire (black goo) and used it to have equal footing with the gods. see how things play out, since Covenant means a contract between two individuals - how far that reaches into the subplot of the whole story that is running in the background.

ali81

Feb-28-2017 9:10 AM

weyland was his master and yes he reported to him and not Vickers. he assisted Vickers but that was as far as it went. we don't know what exactly weyland told david to do or what directives he was given. who would david follow now that weyland was dead and david wasn't on earth? I believe he is free and by the way he was treated by some humans he encountered, I don't see why he would want to aid humanity by giving us equal footing with the gods. I like the idea he has some sense of admiration towards shaw and his motivation for getting upto sinister deeds is to help her but im not sure, in AC anyway, he would have any desire to help mankind after how he was treated by weyland, Vickers, Holloway etc

Rick

Feb-28-2017 2:14 PM

Sorry everyone,

a Bot got in.  I just deleted the messages and banned that account.

Rick

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