Jul-01-2016 6:40 PM
Very interesting,I think this is one of the aliens,probably same as old original ALIEN.we know there will be two,and we won't see the second one(jelly dragon)till movie release next year ,because it is the major key in the plot.
Jul-01-2016 6:52 PM
Very interesting image.. could it be just a gift like the T-Shirts maybe...
I doubt they would be giving away actual design of the Alien to be.... but we can be sure it would be similar.
They want to get back more to a Alien feel and look and i think that also means the Big Chap 1979 Monster, which Ridley did say we would have them all... Egg, Face Hugger, Chest Buster and the Big Chap
This one to me looks like the AVP Xenomorphs, with a slight Aliens Xeno nod. Definitely does not look as Mechanical as the Alien and Aliens ones.
Is this what we shall see, off course anyone of the crew would be subject to a NDA i would have thought... and while we cant be 100% what we can safely assume is be it set after the Covenant Crew arrive or a Flashback... we will be seeing a number of Xenomorph related Monsters, i dont think we will see One related Monster like Prometheus or Alien or Alien 3.
And its safe to assume they would look more similar to the Original as the Alien, Aliens, Alien 3, Alien R and AVP and AVPR Xenos all have a similar look we can see they are connected and i feel the Monsters in Covenant would follow the same pattern and maybe even be closer to the Alien Version?
Jul-01-2016 7:02 PM
The source informed my friend Sunday, that the one Monster that was in the other draft was very similar to a piece of work/art released on the internet since Alien Covenant was announced there was a image floating around that they say is near enough what the One monster would look like.
There has been a few floating around and so which they mean is anyones Guess...
As far as Alien Covenant its going to be more of a Alien movie, i would assume there would be as many as we saw in Alien Resurection for sure.
But the Source claimed way back in March 2015 at a time when Ridley said the beast was cooked, that the draft of October 2014 would have TWO Monsters, both different yet both similar to the Original Monster. But that movie was not a Xeno based Flick.
So with the change to a more Xeno movie, we still dont know kind of Monster we would be seeing but my bet is something more closer to the Original and so the AVP design could be close.
But it could also be closer to the Alien one and so even like this
Jul-01-2016 7:16 PM
Well, it would be odd if this gift will indeed be the xeno design we see. I suppose it was naive of me to think that the almost exact same Alien design from Alien would be the one to use in Covenant.
Still, a very cool looking piece and a seemingly AWESOME gift to the cast and crew! I still lean towards thinking that this is not the Alien we will see. Something similar perhaps.
Jul-01-2016 7:19 PM
Yes i agree.... i think what ever they show us it will be similar, i dont think it would be different like the Deacon was.
Not even sure if it would be like the Necronom IV or Ultramorph... but the source leak did suggest this was similar to one of the Monsters in the Green/Paglen Draft.
But as far as what we would see now.. i dont think it would be different, when people watch Alien R, AVP or AVPR and Alien 3 we can see a connection to the Alien and Aliens Xenomorphs and i think the Alien Covenant would keep with this similar look.
Jul-02-2016 3:03 AM
To me it looks like the head of the Halcyon Alien 3 model. I built this many years ago and that head part looked familiar.
Here are some pictures I found from someone else's Alien 3 kit. Keep in mind that in the kit the head was in 2 halves and a clear dome went over it. (the dome is included and painted in the picture below).
Jul-02-2016 3:50 AM
Sorry, I'm not a fan of the design at all. I'm hoping the design is something very bio-mechanical like the original Giger Alien. Or, something like the Ultramorph design.
EDIT: And with a smooth, part transparent carapace.
Jul-02-2016 4:12 AM
CHRIS PICARD - That is extremely compelling! I like the very sleek and dangerous profile of the creature! Thank you so very much for sharing this with us! :)
Jul-02-2016 4:37 AM
I'm hoping the design is something very bio-mechanical like the original Giger Alien. Or, something like the Ultramorph design.
EDIT: And with a smooth, part transparent carapace.
Jul-02-2016 4:39 AM
I am not sure if I like it, it looks alright but it could have been done better. Hopefully they will design it so it will look better in the movie.
Jul-02-2016 5:04 AM
@BigDave - "The source informed my friend Sunday, that the one Monster that was in the other draft was very similar to a piece of work/art released on the internet since Alien Covenant was announced there was a image floating around that they say is near enough what the One monster would look like."
Do you think they could be referring to this one by Dane Hallett?
Jul-02-2016 5:17 AM
Necronom 4: I have seen that painting before and I really like it. It looks like a Xeno combined with a skeleton. That could look cool if they put it into the movie but don't make it too wooden or else it would remind us too much about the Ents in the trilogy The Lord of the Rings http://www.theargonath.cc/pictures/ents/ents13.jpg.
Jul-02-2016 6:48 AM
Hmm not sure, if it had a clear dome too, then fine, but I'm not a fan of the ridged carapace.
The Alien 3 design was bad, it looked messy and undefined, not streamlined like the design Giger submitted.
Jul-02-2016 6:49 AM
I have updated the OP, many think this is of an Alien 3 Dog Xenomorph mold. The resemblance is there and almost identical. So, to be safe, I've rephrased and updated the article.
Not to say the Aliens in Covenant won't look like this, however...
Jul-02-2016 7:10 AM
@Thoughts_Dreams; Agreed. The thing I like most about it (the Dane Hallett Alien above) is the originality of the design. Of course it's obviously based off of the Giger Alien design, but he's managed to do an excellent job of creating something almost entirely different.
He's even put his own spin on the mechanical elements of the organism, replacing the mechanical tubing at the sides of the head with something else that looks equally has mechanical.
Jul-02-2016 7:18 AM
What creatures are these Xeno's from? Humans? Paradise animals?
Does the animal that is face hugged determine the look of the Xeno? What is canon?
Are they going towards Fire and Stone?
Jul-02-2016 7:32 AM
@Chris - "many think this is of an Alien 3 Dog Xenomorph mold. The resemblance is there and almost identical. So, to be safe, I've rephrased and updated the article.
Not to say the Aliens in Covenant won't look like this, however..."
Who knows, this might indeed be a creature design from Covenant. The crew of the Covenant might have a dog/dogs on-board and one of them gets facehugged?
I hope not though.
Jul-02-2016 8:31 AM
It's true yeah, the mold everyone is comparing it to, seems not as "long" if that makes sense? The jaw seems more streamlined than the Dog Alien kit, but that's just my nitpicking. The bottom line is nobody knows for sure yet, but this could've been an early look. Nobody knows for sure.
Jul-02-2016 8:47 AM
Just to further add however, the mold was custom made for the plasterer department working on Alien: Covenant, it was not that of the Alien 3 kit.
Jul-02-2016 9:44 AM
i personally hope it looks different than this...just to distance itself away from everything after alien...
Jul-03-2016 3:11 AM
Very cool design. Giger's original A3 design and later ripped off by ADI is one qmy personal fav's.
Jul-03-2016 2:19 PM
@Brego; ADI's ham-fisted approach at recreating "what they thought" would be on par with the designs of Giger (how fucking arrogant and delusional they were) just didn't have the same visceral impact of Giger's design.
These are Gigers designs for Alien 3:
Of course, It's up to the viewer to choose which is their favourite design. But for me, it's Giger's designs every time!
Jul-03-2016 2:46 PM
Btw, the images of Giger's sculpts I posted above are what the alien would have looked like had Brandywine, Gillis and Woodruff not stuck their two pence worth in.
Giger was treated atrociously by those arrogant pricks!
Jul-03-2016 3:06 PM
Yes when i saw that Resin Head, i thought of the Alien 3 Sculpt minus the Lips.... its bit like your work Necronom 4 where you had two designs with different mouths...
Gigers Alien 3 with a different mouth has the look of that so called Gift..
And so it does look like a cross between Gigers Runner Sculpt meets the Alien 3 Runner. But when seeing the more clearer image i.e the one that was not black/dark.
That indeed it looks like a Alien 3 model minus the see through dome...
Jul-03-2016 3:19 PM
As far as Alien Covenant... well Prometheus Paradise Lost/Pandemonium and the Source saying about how a image is floating around that near matches what the idea of the One Monster was...
I dont know which, as they never said but looking at the recent ones since November then yes Dane Hallett who is working on Alien Covenant did post that one...
But it is more Mechanical..... mind you the Juggernaught was the same in regards to the Derelict.
The others that come to mind are...
Jul-03-2016 3:24 PM
But again i cant say if they are telling the truth but they did say One of them, was based off Necronom 4 and Ultramorph from Spaights Alien Engineers.
They said back in March 2015 that the movie would use unused ideas and concepts from previous movies included some unused Prometheus work.
And Last Sunday that indeed one Monster is similar to some images floating around the internet after Alien Covenant was announced and based off Gigers Classic.
So yes this tells me one supposed Monster was based on the Ultramorph design which there was Two different ones and so the last 4 images above, had popped up after Alien Covenant and do have that Ultramorph look...
But who knows... who knows if they are telling the truth and besides... i think Alien Covenant will show us more of a closer to the 1979 Alien look... but who knows maybe they want a fresher take on it?
Jul-03-2016 3:30 PM
To me the last Two Images i like the best... very creepy i think this has the bigger fear factor more so than the Original.
And is like a slight redo of the one Ultramorph design
But it also has a Chestbuster look to it
So yes this would be Scary...
But i think we will see something more closer to the Alien one.
Jul-03-2016 3:48 PM
@BigDave; with respect, I don't see any similarities what-so-ever (apart from an elongated cranium) between my Deacon/Giger Alien design:
And this new resin sculpt:
Mine's just some fan art idea's, But thanks for acknowledging it!
Anyway, I can see some obvious differencies between the ALIEN 3 design and this new resin thing:
In this design ^^, the bottom of the carapace doesn't have that protrusion/ledge thing just above the mouth area. Not to mention the fact that the ALIEN 3 design has a smooth carapace, where has this resin model has the ridged cranium design of ALIENS.
Jul-03-2016 3:48 PM
What is the purpose of that thing? The way the neck is sheared flat, it looks like it's meant to attach to something. It would make a great squirt gun.
Jul-03-2016 3:59 PM
Yes on close look i notice the difference Necronom 4 i do apologise ;)
My observation was based on the darker one and i meant similar as in the front part and not the dome... but the more clearer colour image (not black one) reveals more details and yes it now looks like the Alien 3 minus the Clear dome...
I love your design though... prefer the other one you did with the different Jaw/Teeth, but yes this is a fresher take on the Classic Xenomorph and i would be very happy to see something like this with a more menacing Snarl in the movie... good work, no very good!
Jul-03-2016 4:15 PM
Thank you very much BigDave. It makes me very happy that you appreciate it!
Regarding this new resin design; I personally hope this is not going to be a design for Covenant! I'm very fussy about the creature designs and I'm really not a fan of the ridged cranium.
It needs to be fresh and original but also bio-mechanical! LOL
Jul-04-2016 9:33 AM
Indeed that image is not as Bio-Mechanical... as for the ridge it would be great if its under a see through dome... i do think maybe this image could be part of a Kit as it looks like the Alien 3 kit, but that kit has a open Mouth so who knows..
I think we will see at least something more Bio-Mechanical, but its do we see ONE kind of Monster? or more? Do we see one in context of post Prometheus or also another previous to Prometheus?
Jul-04-2016 9:33 AM
I think we need to look at what Ridley is aiming to do with Alien Covenant and forget what the previous plan may have been.
He wants to show us the HOW/WHEN/WHY for the Xenomorph, and he has said it would take Two Movies to connect to Alien and maybe a 3rd if they are to tackle the Derelict.
These means his plan is a sequel to Alien Covenant to then with the next movie provide us with a more clearer picture of the Xenomorph Origins, and then maybe another movie that would cover the Space Jockey, as far as the events that led up to the Space Jockey ending up on LV-426
But i am not sure we would be seeing a totally Xeno movie Franchise Prequel because i cant see how they would cover the Xenomorph in 2 movies, not as far as a full on flick.
It seems Covenant will start to answer Why they created the Xenomorph or at very least the Evil Biology, and Ridley also hinted at us finding out why it was Bio-Mechanical, so maybe answer why the Xeno differed from the more Organic Creations in Prometheus.
We know he said that the Crew of the Covenant will discover something Evolving on Paradise that the Engineers played a part in creating and we may not be seeing any Engineers as far as in the Timeline of 2103+ but we are seeing what could be Flash Backs of some disaster, and maybe the Evolving Creature is something left as a result of this?
All we do know is we are going to see is...
1) Every stage of the Xenomorph from Egg ==> Adult (but will it be the same Beast that we saw in Alien?)
2) We are going to get some clues to why it or the Biology behind it was created.
3) We are going to get a sense of why it was Bio-Mechanical
4) What kind of Evolutionary path is taken to get to the Eggs
5) We are going to see more than One of these Beasts, this is no Alien or Alien 3 but so far with a Small Crew it would be hard to see us seeing many Xenomorph related beasts unless this movie turns into a More Aliens kind of flick, i think Ridley wants to bring back the Fear Factor and Helplessness of the crew as per other movies apart from (Aliens and Alien R) only other way to show a larger number of Beasts would be if we see a Flash Back Xeno Scene
You see everyone seems, well most... that the Xenomorph in this movie will be as a result of the Covenant crew finding something and then seeing Multiple Aliens on the lose vs a Crew of 10 (more non important crew could be added, like the Mechanics and Mercs in Prometheus but still i doubt the Covenant would have more than 20 crew which means anymore than 5 Xenomorphs would not work well. But if we are going to see the Origins, why do we need assume this is a event after Prometheus?
Jul-05-2016 1:40 AM
God I hope they don't go with avp/resurrection alien design. Giger himself said it looks like a "big turd" That design was kind of ripped off from pumpkin head. The whole thing just looks goofy. Awkward big feet. Dumb impractical long fingers.
Jul-05-2016 1:40 AM